was permitted but the dominant opinion
is it's not there are there there is an
opinion of scholars that abortion before
120 days was not and it's not considered
murder before 120 days but it's
considered prohibited by the vast
majority of the Muslim scholars for a
number of reasons one because it's an
interruption of a divine process two
because there's a serious danger to the
the woman which it's not permissible to
put yourself into a type of danger for
something because the Quran says you
know that's up to a radical hush-hush it
said in Locke don't kill your children
out of fear of provision because it says
that chill
are provided for they come with their
own provision that's a belief in Islam
that your children bring their own
provision right there food everything
they're going to get was already decreed
for them so you're not you know you're
not it's they're not taking from you
they're actually bringing their own and
for most people you know that they
actually see an increase with children
you know their lives actually there's an
increase that comes with children now
during this time and it's interesting
it's about 120 days the heartbeat right
is audible you'll start hearing the
heartbeat and during this time the the
soul is in this this is like a bottle
sock every death out of these five
stages there is a death and a birth so
as you leave one realm and die from that
realm you're born into another realm so
we are we are dying and being born into
these realms and during this time it's
believed to be important for the woman
to be in a good spiritual state - and
that these will affect the child what
she eats making sure that her food is
how now also her thoughts her state and
that's why in traditional cultures it
was very important that a woman was felt
very secure that there was an anxiety
that there wasn't and this is why even
it with divorce the divorce period is
the entire pregnancy so that she doesn't
have anxieties about provision and
things like that and it's not encouraged
to divorce during pregnancy now at the
point that the child moves into the next
stage from this Barza into the dunya
and that's why dunya means the lowest
world it is the lowest we are in the
lowest world in this hierarchy of world
when the child comes into the dunya the
first thing that is done is the Adan is
recited into the right ear and the
formula which is known as the otama
which is done before the prayer is
recited into the left ear and then you
put something sweet on the tongue dates
like choose some dates and put it on the
tongue and the reason for this is that
there are two important things that
every human being should know about the
duniya the first is the wide and the
second is the ye the wide is the promise
that you will go back to the Divine
Presence from whence you came this is a
promise you will go back to the Divine
Presence because the child is moving
into the realm of separation they are
still in divine unity and this is why
children are not in a differential state
they can't differentiate at this point
what what will happen is the promise is
the garden but the garden has a key in
other words you the garden is not earned
but it's also not given without struggle
or effort I mean the Muslims confer with
the Christians in that it is through
grace that people are that people are
are given that the divine presence but
that grace is given through a fir
in other words there's nothing that you
could do to make yourself worthy of that
grace so it's not something that can be
achieved or earned but at the same time
there has to be the move towards that
that it's not given without that effort
and that's why in the Quran you will see
verses that indicate that this is a
reward for what you were doing it's it's
a reward that is is is is way beyond
whatever the people were doing but they
don't get that without the effort so the
Yee is this when the child is born it is
the wide and not the way eat because
they're not in the realm of the the
punishment they're in the realm of the
promise and this is why children that
die before puberty have no accounting
according to the dominant opinion and in
fact one of well I'll get to that when
we I might forget so I'll mention this
now one of the things that people whose
children die before they reach puberty
on the day of judgment they will bring
water to their parents on the plane when
everybody else is suffering and and then
they'll actually be happy that that
happened like the pain they had in this
world is transformed into a joy in the
next world and other people envy them
they're envious that they have those
children that come with this relief on
that day and they seek out their parents
they go and find them so the promise is
what is what is told to the child is a
shadow and let you know a lot where
shadow on a mohammed rasoolallah this is
a reminder to the soul that's embedded
in this infant it's a reminder you see
you have this in many traditions you
know the Platonic tradition talks about
this Plato believed that with what this
world was was an arena to remember what
we already knew in the world of
archetypes before we came into this
world we knew truths and this world we
enter into forgetfulness and what we
have to do in this world is wake up to
what we already knew and this is the
allegory of the cave of realizing that
there's a journey to be made we have to
get out of the shadow show of the
illusion right which is really
interesting because in a way human
beings now if you look at film and
television which are the dominant
preoccupations of many many human beings
now it's very similar to the cave
because people are watching these images
projected from lights flickering on
their TV screens and in their movie
theaters and their illusions and there's
this whole other real world out there
and there are people now that are
preferring this world of illusion this
vicarious world this virtual reality to
a whole other world which the world that
they're dismissing is still considered
to be another television it's just a
better program so that is the reminder
to the soul and there's a belief that
the soul hears that and it resonates and
there's a there's a deep belief in the
Islamic tradition that when people hear
la la la la that it resin
with them that they recognize the truth
of it right I mean everybody knows does
anybody not know that I hate la la means
every maid knows that right la ilaha
illa Allah there is no god but Allah
yeah that's that is that is the the I
mean from the Muslim perspective that is
the reason we were created to testify to
that truth that there is no other
purpose and muhammad rasool allah which
i mentioned you know earlier is only the
latest formula there were Esau das what
Jesus is the Messenger of Allah Abraham
is the Messenger of Allah
possibly Buddha was the messenger of the
truth Krishna I don't know about because
they're not mentioned by name but there
are many traditional Muslim scholars
that said that there are high
probabilities that those traditions were
prophetic traditions that came to their
people with their language and their
understanding which is where you'll get
these differences but the the truth of
Leila hey Lala is something that Souls
recognize and Kufa is covering up that
truth that's that's what a person who is
not in a state of submission is called a
calf fill which is often translated as
infidel which is not a correct
translation infidel is actually a Latin
Christian term for people that didn't
accept Christianity in Fidelis without
faith the the belief the kaffir is
somebody who's covering up this truth
that its own soul knows because these
lower passions have overwhelmed the
higher essence of that human being and
they don't like what the implications of
that are so they choose not to look at
it this is how the Muslims view it now
once the child enters into this realm it
will go through five stages mm-hmm the
light is the warning that if you do not
maintain your pre worldly contract which
is that you testified to the truth of
the lordship of your Creator that you
you you're in trouble you're in trouble
now there is a belief in the Muslim
tradition that if you have not been
reminded you're not taken to account for
your forgetfulness right because the
overriding mode of the Creator is mercy
it's not wrath the Quran says the mercy
has preceded the wrath right and there's
a tradition in which the Prophet Salla
lot is that I'm said that God has a
hundred parts of mercy 99 he has
retained in his presence and one part he
has allowed to descend to the dunya and
it is that one part that a mother nurses
her child with that the foot the the
mayor raises her hoof from stepping on
her fall so every act of mercy in this
world is only from that one part and the
99 have been remain in the divine
presence for the day of judgment
now the second stage is the stage of the
lower world so you have the womb and
then you have the childhood now there's
some interesting things before that just
about the womb
there's many verses in the Quran like 23
12 and 4 for 22 verse 5 which deal with
the phenomenon of the womb and one of
the there's a embryologist by the name
of Keith Moore who wrote one of the
dominant textbooks for embryology it's
used I don't know if it is now but it
was a few years ago at UCLA's Medical
School and he wrote in the introduction
that there was no embryo logical
knowledge before I think it was maybe
the 17th or 18th century whatsoever and
there was no detailed knowledge until
the 20th century with the advent of a
lot of the technology that's enabled us
to look I mean now we've seen the
miracle of life right you can watch the
whole thing happen and there's a Yemeni
scholar of the majeeda Zindani who read
this and and wrote him a letter saying
here you're wrong that in the 7th
century there's very detailed
embryological information and Keith
Moore actually ended up going to Yemen
and meeting with this man and being
shown all of these verses and rewrote
his introduction to his textbook and
there are some videos of his
presentations about that in which he
admitted that the detailed information
in the Quran is the earliest example of
accurate scientific information about
the embryo logical stages and somebody
asked him if it was possible for the
Prophet to have known that and he said
that unless he had microscopic
information and and was able to go in
and actually see these because it says
in the 20250 humanity if you're in doubt
concerning this resurrection then know
that we created you from dust and then
from the drop of a seed nota now note
files are really interesting because
these are not good translations nutfah
there is a version of quran which says
that that the man had added insanity no
military dimension with kora in her
clearance and minute patent am schedge
we created the human being from a nutfah
and then it says am schedge
this in classical arabic exegesis was
always problematic because nothi is a
singular feminine form and the adjective
that's used to describe it is a plural
and you can't do that in arabic grammar
so it was always considered problematic
but the word I'm Chad means the the
message is this intermingling of lots of
things so the idea is that we created
you from this seed that has an
intermingling of many things I'm judge
and from that note feh we made you an
Allah this is the next stage the word in
Arabic Allah means a leech like now what
happens with the zai God when it's
inseminated right it gets inseminated
the sperm goes up and there's a very
twisting hadith of the Prophet and they
asked him how are males and females
determined because the the the Arabs had
a lot of superstitions about how you
know theirs they still do this
Arab women will say you know lie on your
left side or you know they've got all
these funny things that they're supposed
to do if they want a boy or a girl and
right and and they actually believe
positions influence that sexual
positions there so he was asked how what
determines the male or the female and he
said yet the sad buckle mat with Decker
Lama antha the female and the male water
race this is in sahih muslim he said the
female and the male water race and the
one that gets there first will determine
whether the child is a male or a female
which is important for a number of
reasons because women were often blamed
in classical Arabic tradition for having
not producing males it was considered
something was wrong with the woman right
and so that indicates you know the X and
the y chromosome that you have the male
and the female water and water is also
used in the Quran in many verses that
are now interpreted to be the genetic
material we feed them all from the same
water but we vary them with that water
and that means sperm as well in arabic
mountain in san man's water is his sperm
so the the Iloka means a clinging thing
so when the zygote comes down it
literally clings to the side of the womb
and it will embed itself in the womb and
actually will will break down to to
cling into the womb so and then it
begins the
to derive its nourishment from the
embryonic sac and then it talks about
being in the three veils of darkness in
the Quran which Keith Moore identified
as these the three layers within the
womb and then it says and then from a
lump of flesh
it says mullah and mullah is a chewed
lump of flesh and when the Wendy if you
see it on the that that first period it
looks like a chewed morsel it looks if
if an Arab was told to describe what
that was you would say moo baa baa even
though it's still microscopic it's a
chewed lump of flesh it looks like
somebody literally it looks like teeth
marks where the where the spinal cord is
forming in that initial period
it looks like teeth marks somebody
literally bit into it and then it says
shapely and shapeless because part of it
has started to shape and other parts are
still left unformed so you can see this
in at the embryonic level you can see
that some of it is shaping and others
still have no shape and then it says
that we may make it clear to you that's
why this is being told in other words
it's saying if you're in doubt about
what we're doing look at this in order
for it to be made clear to you and and
we will and then we cause what we will
to remain in the wombs for an appointed
time so inside the womb this there is an
edge in the womb as well so this is a
life there's an evolution that happens
in the womb and some of it will not
reach its agile in the same way as this
there could be a spontaneous abortion
there could be an abortion
that's wilt or an accident
so once the the child comes out it comes
into the next stage of dunya so Junior
has five stages
the first stage is one through he says
five and there's another one that goes
with seven which is consistent with the
Western tradition you could either go 1
to 7 or 1 to 15 if you go 1 to 7 which
is also considered a classical Islamic
category during these first seven years
it's the responsibility of the parents
to nurture the child this is a time that
there is absolutely no responsibility
none it's prohibited to to have any
physical discipline during this time
even up till 10 physical discipline is
is not permitted in in Sharia other than
the scholars say like twisting the ear
right grabbing the stomach you know
pinching the stomach giving them pinches
any type of physical violent force is
prohibited in any situation whether it's
male adult female adult or child is
prohibited for any violent physical
abuse that is Haram and Sharia
absolutely and there's no proof or
justification for it and we're going to
look at the verse that a lot of people
misunderstand including unfortunately
some Muslims about that but it's it's
well-known in the Islamic sharia that it
is prohibited to physically strike
anyone with violence hmm
no that's poor on ya it's a there are
several verses that deal with that
actually but the one I gave you was
twenty two five
now in twenty two five it continues and
it says afterward we bring you forth as
infants the word in Arabic this stage is
called the foot now Tuffle means in
arabic poof a li is a parasite the
puffle is somebody that cannot live on
its own it needs a host so the child
needs the parents and this is the
responsibility of the parents to nurture
the child now the Prophet Mohammed salat
is that I'm said that every child is
born on fitrah and this is an important
concept in Islam filtra is the inherent
nature of the human being
it's his aboriginal nature it is
believed in Islam that human beings are
good in their nature and it is it is
diseased societies that will affect the
the nature in a diseased way now this
obviously doesn't is not congruence with
the traditional Christian belief of the
corrupt nature but there is a similarity
between the Islamic and the Christian
belief in that there is a hadith that
says that every child is born with a
black seed in the heart and this is
similar but not the same as the
understanding of original sin
it's going kinda yeah this is going to
be the shield the actions of the parents
affect their children and there are like
in the Bible the idea of visiting on
seven generations which is you know it's
a lot you're dealing with sixty four
parents there is that concept in Islam
that your actions do affect your
offspring but there is no accountability
of the offspring in other words nobody
bears the burden of you do not like in
some of the Chinese traditions you have
the idea of inherited curses you know
that a family gets cursed for doing
wrong in one generation and their
offspring will suffer the fate of that
curse but there is a belief in Islam
that that righteousness will affect your
offspring and also wrongs will affect
your offspring you don't think as it is
available the concert hall
of inhibited agent but was a clang baby
in the census starts all over and
addiction an addiction right and the
mother is responsible for that not the
baby so the mother has has affected the
and that's we have that ability to
completely destroy the fitrah the
parents can do that to the child they
can ruin it and that's what happens
filter is not you know children will not
be if they're nurtured properly now
there is a bad seed there is a concept
of bad seed in Islam there's definitely
a concept in other words there is a
belief that there are Shelton and intz
which are demonic humans and this
results one that demons will actually
partake in the insemination that there's
Hadees that indicate that people that
are like in fornication in and it's
interesting because Islam accepts
marriage in every tradition you know
even though it doesn't accept the the
Buddhists as a people of the book that
you know they're accepted as a as a
tradition in that they can pay the jizya
tax according to imam malik but they're
there their books are not accepted as
revealed books they're not rejected but
they're not accepted it's not in the
articles of faith like the Bible and the
gospel but Buddhist marriage is accepted
if if two buddhists become muslim their
marriage is violent they don't have to
renew that marriage because marriage is
believed to be a divine institution that
it was through revelation that marriage
came about so marriage in any tradition
is accepted and therefore children that
are born of legitimate marriage in any
tradition those children have the
protection of the
sanctity of the men of the union
children born out of wedlock do not have
that protection and there can be effects
on the children because of that and one
of the things that the Prophet salat is
that I'm said is beware the wrath of
bastard children beware the wrath of
bastard children that if you do that to
children they will be angry and their
wrath will come back to you and he said
if he legitimacy spreads amongst the
people then they are spreading the wrath
of God amongst themselves and the wrath
is in the children because that was a
right that you have deprived them up
they have a right to legitimacy and if
you do not give them that you have
oppressed them and oppression engenders
anger and they are often they don't know
why they're angry right they don't know
why they're angry but they're angry and
and for our country when you're looking
at 70 percent the legitimacy rates
amongst certain communities right and
the dominant community it's it's it's in
the 40 percentile range right that which
a lot of you grew up in an age where you
know girls disappeared in high school
right I mean it's really amazing how
much has changed in our generation right
I mean in 1968 a woman was kicked out of
Vassar for living with a man in an
apartment 68 and it's really interesting
how how that's happened in this culture
so this fifth row nature is this
inherent nature and it is that the
potential for good and evil exist but
the inclination is too good if it's
nurtured but the seed of evil can be
nurtured also and if that's done then
you get people that that will they're
inclined to doing bad stuff not good
stuff absolutely and there is no
responsibility until puberty of the
child it all falls on the parents after
puberty according to the hadith the
parents are taken to account in the next
life but not in this life once the chap
you know like if you've got children
that were raised brutalized right by
their father you know or a crack-cocaine
mother who doesn't do anything for a
child these type things the
responsibility this is why you can't
judge people in this world in any
absolute sense the prophets that I was
commanded to judge outwardly but not
inwardly we we do not have the authority
to make inward judgments against people
we can only judge outwardly and those
outward judgments in Sharia are related
to transgressions but you cannot condemn
people to hell you can't none of that
that's all inward judgment and we have
no authority in that realm the variables
that are involved in any human action
are so vast that no individual can grasp
them we can but responsibility is lies
on the adult once you reach adulthood
you are responsible and in Sharia it's
not
hold up in court to have a psychologist
in there explaining what happened when
they were children and why they're doing
that that does not hold up in in Sharia
Court although Sharia laws are often
contextualized in that upon decide to
implement a HUD punishment one of the
the penal punishments because of
contextual circumstances that that does
exist so there is that realm it's it's
very organic the Islamic legal system is
it's not black and white at all between
7 and 15 Buddhism huge difference to
some communities or traditions through
the 1 to 7 and the other one to 15 I'm
looking at all you know a lot of the
crimes being committed by 315 yeah
that's that in in Sharia if they're
adult they're responsible although this
culture by Islam you cannot apply
Islamic law in the United States you
can't it would be completely
unacceptable because Islamic law is
organic it's it's a it's a holistic
system you cannot have so like let's
chop off the hands of thieves and you
have a consumer culture where the whole
society is is is is is locked in to the
the system of creating consumption as an
addiction right I mean you have to
change it's it's you know the Islamic
legal system the first chapter of
Islamic law books is called the chapter
of purity I mean it's a spiritual
tradition before it's a legal tradition
and so you can't cannot impose
the legal laws on a materialistic
society you have to introduce and this
is why the Meccan stage precedes the
medinan stage the Meccan state had no
legal rulings it was a stage of changing
the perceptions of the people and once
that ship took place this radical
paradigm shift once that took place then
the rules begin to make sense but to
apply the rules without that would be
injustice which is what you know this is
the kind of conservative approach let's
just make harsher laws right see the
problem is the laws aren't harsh enough
well you know why are people doing what
they're doing and why is it that our our
prisons you know are over 60% in fact in
most places it's more like seventy five
eighty percent minority why is that well
that's more evidence you know that these
are inferior type people I mean there's
a lot of that's an unspoken belief
amongst a lot of people in this country
you know I mean there's a lot of people
that are politically correct in their
public discourse not in their private
discourse there's a lot of people that
say well you know these people you know
they're different from us they have
different values whatever or no values
so whereas the Islamic situation is
saying look what's going on right that
these situations are being produced
what's in generating this because this
is alien you see if if you go to a black
African if you go to a Gambian village
where there's no crime right I mean it's
true or not true and isn't it a large
percentage of the african-americans in
this country are from Senegambia right
this
their genetic inheritance so why is it
that a Gambian African in his village is
not stealing raping and pillaging right
and their 12 year olds aren't going
around doing gangbang and yet the same
genetic bank in in the inner cities of
New York or right or Chicago are doing
that you see what's going on well from
the Islamic perspective you have a
diseased Society and therefore you have
symptomatic pathology and the pathology
is manifesting in children that are
being raised in a diseased engendering
culture so during these seven years it's
not encouraged to teach children either
because they're learning they have their
own learning schedule and in traditional
cultures you did not begin to train
children until they reach seven which is
consistent also with the the Waldorf
right Rudolf Steiner fell back in the
20s that if we begin to educate children
at the age of five we are going to see
precocious sexual development occurring
and the reason he said that is is
because you're dealing with a divine
programming that's designed at that if
you if you bring programming that's not
meant to be introduced earlier then
you're going to pull the whole process
down so instead of the sexual maturation
occurring like in this culture when
people who here might have grown up in
the 50s at the age of fourteen most boys
and girls we're not thinking about
sexual experimentation right really they
weren't and you can talk to your parents
if you're not that old right I mean this
is not I'm not making this up this is
even the menage has you know the period
now
we have early onset periods we've got
girls now at 7 & 8 that are beginning to
menstruate ins in certain areas right so
something's going on right now if you
introduce it's actually considered
damaging now this is not true of all
children there will be because there
you're going to have children that want
to read at the age of 3 or 4 but the
vast majority of children are not going
to be like that and so they're doing
their work between 1 & 7 they know
exactly what they're supposed to be
doing and you let them do that
they're developing their their minds and
and they're actually they are according
to Islam and according to a lot of our
neurological research it's confirming
these ancient beliefs because this is
not just Islam this this this is
congruence with many traditions 7 was an
age of initiation in many many
traditions and in the classical European
oral culture before Christianity litter
eyes that area 7 was actually you are an
adult at 7 you went from childhood to
adulthood at the age of 7 because in
oral cultures 7 year olds speak like
adults and you'll notice a radical
change in the the ability of a child to
articulate at about the age of 7 and 8
there's a real change in their ability
to express themselves and this is why
even in England you know in the 8th 9th
century at 7 year olds and 8 year olds
were being hung for a horse theft right
which I mean obviously that's horrific
but it's indicative of an oral culture
and how they view and this is why you
will find marriage occurred in oral
cultures at early ages also it was not
uncommon in Europe Asia the Middle East
Africa for an eight or a nine year-old
girl to be married not uncommon at all
because they were considered to have
already reached
the age of maturation in the oral
understanding so at the age of seven
they enter into what's called sinew
Tamizh which is the age of
discrimination they can't now they're
beginning to understand certain certain
things Imam al-ghazali said you can
introduce to them now the concept of
time in a real way so they can
understand things like that they're in
time creatures and also the
responsibilities of actions although
they're not fully responsible yet
because they don't have all of the
hardwiring yet
so this fitrah and it's in the chapter
called the chapter of the Byzantines or
the Europeans or Rome means Europe it
also means the Byzantines it says that
you set your face to the religion which
is the religion of nature the fifth are
given by God and then it says and do not
change that nature which is an
indication that we can alter the fifth
era of people and we have thousands of
years of anthropological evidence that
most cultures were benign cultures I
mean we have a great deal of evidence
you know we would like those people who
make weapons would like us to believe
that we are aggressive by Nature
in other words that by nature we like to
inflict violence and aggression there
are many people that there's there's a
vested interest in having that the truth
is that most of the evidence that we
have from Aboriginal cultures is
contrary to that the Shoshone Indians
you know this is a good example of a
culture that really rejected violence as
a as an option right and there are many
many other many African cultures where
this is very clearly the case that that
violence was seen as surgery you know
that you did not use that route unless
there was no other alternative whereas
in our culture it's its primary care
right its lines in the sand and anybody
who knows Arab psychology knows that you
don't draw lines in the sand if you want
to stay at the the table of dialogue
right if you want to reach some end and
you know it's it's really fun I want to
get into politics but that what happened
in 1991 was an act of madness complete
act of madness and we were as a culture
collectively drawn into something that
had nothing to do with our vested
interests right and and unfortunately
still going on but Arab posturing is
anybody who knows the Arabs is that
they're people that posture this is part
of their nature and Saddam Hussein you
know was was literally doing a classic
Arab posturing because the OPEC
countries reneged on a promise that they
made that they would help him with his
war debts that were incurred during the
Iranian Iraqi war and they reneged on
and he put his troops there at the
border as a to force their hand and th