Attributes of Allah (CD Set)

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literally a direct translation from out

of Farabi so you know the Christians

were using Muslim proofs now that strain

don't think that this idea of proving

the existence of God has anything to do

with doubt about God doubt about God is

a modern concept there are very few

ancients who had any doubts about God

and the people trying to prove the

existence of God were largely deeply

religious people they were deeply devout

people so why do you think they would

try to prove the existence of God

because they felt that faith should be

based in reason they felt that in order

for faith to be on firm foundation it

should have the foundation of reason and

that's why they attempted to the best of

their ability to create a rational

foundation for belief and this again

gets to reason and tradition this

problem so they were trying to

synthesize the essential problem of

oppan and knuckle how do we get nothing

to correspond with a phone or vice versa

and they made many many attempts at a

certain point because of massive

confusion that was beginning to reign in

the Islamic lands a group of people show

up one was in Egypt with Jaffa how he

and he dies in 321

which is 933 of the Christian era the

the second is from Basra and teaches in

buck Dada two cities that are in the

news a lot and in those days the wars

were with sandals in the mosques

throwing shoes at each other when they


oh but hasn't a shoddy now they're using

them to hit

statues and things like that so

traditions hard to get rid of

oh but Hassan and uh shadi who dies in

324 and that's 935 and then Abu Mansour

and Matuidi who is from he's born in

Madrid and dies in summer pans in what's

called traditional Horus on the land

where the Sun rises hora Sun Sun Sun

hora so it's horizontal and where the

Sun comes up which is the East or Asia

we would call it now Central Asia and he

comes from that place now what's

interesting about Central Asia is he

came from a place that was a center of

Buddhist learning and I find this deeply

significant I actually wrote a paper

called how the Buddha saved Islam it's a

paper in which I tried and I've never

seen this anywhere but I really tried to

show that the paradoxical formulas that

are introduced by the Met to Dedes and

the Ashanti's were actually coming out

of Buddhist logic and the Buddhists had

a massive impact a lot of people don't

know this but they actually had a

massive impact the tolerance of the

Abbasid period I believe is largely due

to the influence of Buddhism because the

bar metkids who were the great ministers

of the abbasids were from Afghanistan

and that family was a famous Buddhist

priest family they're very tolerant

deeply tolerant people and they

introduced a lot of this extraordinary

tolerance during the Abbasid period into

the Islamic tradition and removed a lot

of the very harsh interpretations and

they textually justified it which is

what's so beautiful and that's why the

danger of religion is that it is open to

multiple textual interpretations and

it's which one are you going to choose

and in a sense that is revealing

something about your essential nature

what are you attracted to because you

can find harshness you can find cruelty

in all the religion and then you can

find all these other qualities and I

feel that the other qualities are the

dominant qualities it's almost like

those harsh and cruel aspects it's like

a shadow a union

shadow religion that exists alongside

the true religion to almost separate

people and to to reveal themselves

because hypocrisy is the worst type of

personality the one who's hiding his

true nature so these three men all our

existing I mean look at that 333 321 324

and 333 and this is their death dates so

these three men are all living at the

same time and they formulate these

Creed's that basically save Islam now

Imam of the Howey is more of a knuckle

he's not interested in Apple and he has

very few if any he has a few but he has

very few what is miss term speculative

theological formulas it's miss term that

I would say more rational the Albert

hasanat a shoddy is in a sense a bridge

between alkali knuckle but imam abu


and Matuidi takes it to a much deeper

level the three in terms of this

fundamental problem and what's

interesting is the great creedal formula

of the muslims becomes the formula of

imam and Nyssa fee who was a Matuidi

with the commentary of taftazani who was

an ashati

and this is what was taught in our

mattresses for centuries I mean these

are the two great texts one is a

commentary by an a shoddy but the other

is a Creed by a Matuidi and these three

men represent what comes to be known as

Anna sooner well GEMA

they basically create Creed's they

produce Creed's and credo in Latin means

I believe so a Creed is what you believe

you say credo I believe and that's why

in the beginnings of these Creed's they

always say a Coulomb or a Tuppy then I

say believing so the Arpita is what

you're bound to it's what you have

conviction about you know it's a pet too

you know it's what you're not at its

what you've bound to it it's what you

believe and have conviction about and

this becomes the IP that this is the

word that's used in ours for the Creed

so they call it the al-qaeda and that's

via the arcade Howie the Arpita

like that and then each one of these

I mean of imam abu jaafar of howie and

imam and Matuidi are the two hanafis and

imam and ashati there's a debate the

matter Keys claim him as a matter key

and the Shaffers claim him as a chef

very so there and I think probably the

stronger argument is that he was a Shafi

but his greatest student by one there is

a meaty area between the the two his

greatest student is a bucket of belani

who was a Maliki scholar who develops

what's known as the atomic theory in

Islam and it's probably the most

sophisticated pre-modern theory and

there's a book called the history of the

atom and there is a chapter on the

Muslim atomic theory and they do admit

that the scientist that wrote that book

said that this is clearly the most

sophisticated pre modern atomic theory

that we have and he also says that he

doesn't really understand how they got

it the Muslims and so they they were

thinking very deeply about that now I

believe also there's a connection

between the Buddhist atomic theory and

abu-bakr Balinese theory because there's

a lot of similarities and that is

obviously deep speculation and there's

Muslims that did not like that at all

and that tended to be within the hum

body tradition you have a third a fourth

strain from these three men you have a

fourth strain which is the ham body

strain the ham bodies tended to be

although Albert Hasan had a shoddy wood

would use imam ahmed as his foundation

in a sense because imam ahmed was was

considered the imam of ala Sunnah wal

Jamaa it's his lock up because he had

such an important role to play in

protecting Islam from the merit is he

lights he was honored with that and so

in that sense now Imam of the four Imams

the three imams maja neva mattock and

Schaffer II have room for more room for

Apple and the most is of

honey feral Delano he is the most

rational he is a legal philosopher in a

way I mean Imam Shafi is also but Abu

Hanifa will use a Khan more than any of

the other Imams I'm at the Muhammad is

the least inclined to do that he will

prefer a weak hadith over analogical

reasoning and that is in hizmet which

gives total lie to this idiotic idea

that weak hadees have no place in Islam

I mean if I'm a demon ham but use his

weak had these before he uses PS in his

o soul I mean I think that exposes the

ignorance of people who claim that weak

Hadees are worthless

on the contrary they've been used for

centuries by our greatest scholars so of

those three of the four strains the ham

body strain will be the least inclined

to any type of rational approach to

creed and it will get to the point where

the anthropomorphise who are a problem

in all religions not just the Muslims

this phenomenon is a phenomenon within

religion are people that take things


in other words believe in the literal

meaning of everything that is said and

that is absolutely impossible to do with

any text of Revelation because the

nature of language is that there is

always analogy and metaphor always you

cannot get out of it it's impossible it

is simply impossible and it leads to

very difficult even the literalists who

deal with the pot on they get into big

problems in interpreting certain verses

in the Quran and create very clever

rhetorical devices to deal with those

problematic verses for them like ask the

town for set up area you know ask the

town how do you ask a town I mean what's

a town what do you mean ask the town do

you mean ask the people of the town

you mean astley I mean if it's literally

the town town can I ask you a question

Chicago I'd like to ask you well I can

say that you know I want to hear what

Chicago has to think about all this now

obviously I mean you people here from


well that's metaphor

and that's in language it's just the way

it is the White House announced today I

mean nobody saw these bricks that are

painted white saying something right

these far as I know announced things so

the discipline knuckle is is what

when Mansoura Matuidi is trying to bring

together this understand now the third

formulation is amongst the people who

deal with it son or the spiritual

science of Islam so the providential

care that we see in this community is

during the period we see at how death

and Mojave whose 243 Imam and Junaid who

is probably the great formulator of the

tradition in 297 and then a Shibley his

student 334 elbow thought of and Mickey

386 and then I would add Arabiya an idea

to that because she introduced the idea

she really is credited with the

introduction of the idea of love of God

being higher than the fear of God and

it's a very important introduction into

the Islamic tradition the Bekaa own who

were these men that literally became so

enveloped with fear of God that they

stopped eating that cry all the time

they were basically dysfunctional from

this immense fear and she introduces

this idea that love is such a higher

concept when dealing with the divine and

that becomes very strong within that

tradition now that Islam the four Imams

Iman these four traditions and then it


these four be moms and adding arabiya

as the fifth in that science they

basically formulate iman Islam and asan

it becomes a religion in the sense that

we can study it in an organized

schematized way that was not true in the

first community

it just wasn't because much of it was


you could ask the Sahaba they knew all

these things they had an immense

knowledge of all three subjects but they

did not have Babbitt will do or babbit

the heart or you know Bab Anika and

dividing niihka into different types and

having different types saw and facet or

the five formulation so here you have

the Philosopher's that are pure

rationalist you have the traditionalist

which were the mahadji foon who are pure

traditionalists they're not interested

in in alpha they're interested in

nothing and that's why the AHA say

the Mahadev is a pharmacist he's not a

doctor so never get a prescription from

a pharmacist all the pharmacists knows

is nothing see what the doctor has is

open he knows how to apply he knows how

to put things together he knows how to

we hope but that's what the physician he

learns how to discern between signs and

symptoms what if you have jaundice what

that means and and then what is the

prognosis where it's going all these

things so that's the and rarely do

you get the two together now the same is

true about Allah Subhan Allah to add as

these credo formulations you have the

Creed which is none but then you have to

have an understanding of it this is aqua

and so bringing these two together this

is what fucka daddy not Raji says is the

meaning of neuron Aden or that light

upon light is revelation on intellect

and the rock a Buddhist behind said

never be impressed with a person's Islam

until you've tested their intellect

because the most dangerous thing that

you can have is intellect without

religion or religion without intellect

it's a disaster both our disasters

intellect without religion leads to

concentration camps gas chambers you

know we've got a problem it's called the

Jewish problem and what's the most

efficient way to deal with this problem

I mean this really this is pure reason I

mean there's people that could argue

against that but ultimately this

is how they perceive the world this is

how Nazi Germany perceived the world

efficiency and we were the open immense

you know where the people beyond good

and evil we're not because in the

content moral argument for the existence

of God what Kant says is the

understanding of good and evil is the

greatest proof for the existence of God

because without God you could have no

understanding of good and evil and this

is what happens when revelation is

removed from internet because intellect

can be evil and this is what in the

golden mean intellect is a mean between

craftiness and between stupidity

so the intellect can be used for evil

and religion without intellect leads

also to gas chambers they might be

metaphorical ones but again we have a


you know the Americans are our problem

well let's just kill them all I mean

it's a great solution because God said

kill them wherever you find them so

let's just do that I mean this is the

tie this what happens when you divorce

one from the other you you end up with

the same result which is brutality a

loss of your humanity it's really


and this is why bringing these two

together is so difficult and yet our

religion has been so brilliant at doing

it and the man that did it is called the

proof of this law which it's a lot

Hasani he is the man that brought it all


he brought the thing that will sold

he was a master he's one of the greatest

a Saudi scholars in history he brought

the a peda he brought the philosophical

tradition and he brought the spiritual

tradition and he synthesized it into

this extraordinary exposition of Islam

where he said don't fight each other

these are not mutually exclusive

meanings can't you see you're all

looking at things from a different

perspective and what you need to

recognize is this is a diamond that has

different facets and it is the divine

light that comes into that diamond that

refracts it into this extraordinary

rainbow of colors that you sort of know

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