Educating your child in modern times

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alled an

kitab-o-moosa al kabir the big music

book hamza Aladeen I don't know if

people are familiar with him he's a

brilliant food player he actually gave

me his copy and it's it is the big music

book it's about two thousand pages and

hamza has a knowledge of that and if you

go on his website he's got some insights

into the secrets that they discovered

about music one of the reasons that

music is so dangerous

Plato wanted it banished from the

Republic the musicians and the reason

for that is not that he didn't enjoy

music because the gymnasium was actually

música it was what they taught their

children but he felt that most musicians

didn't know what they were doing and

what they could do to the soul was so

dangerous because of the nature of the

power of music the impact that it can

have on the soul and that in the hands

of somebody that didn't know what they

were doing or manipulated it for other

means that he thought it was better just

to keep it away now in in the Muslim

tradition they separated the profane and

the sacred music and many of the

scholars prohibited the profane music

because they felt that it did have a bad

impact on people and the shape of music

they developed a cosmology to this day

in Turkey there is a man there who has a

hospital where they still use

traditional music therapy which was

developed in Persia because the Arab

music has a 24 note system as opposed to

a 12 because they bring in quarter notes

and it's related to the 12 hours of the

day out of 12 organs in the body they

have 12 in their system there are two

hours and this is the same as the

Chinese system and the Ayurvedic system

they have two hours that are related so

heart is nine between nine and eleven

o'clock in the morning so if you want to

work on the heart then that was the time

that for people that have problems with

their heart

you would play certain chromatic scales

that were designed to actually

strengthen the heart during that period

and in andalucía they had insane asylums

in which orchestras were actually

retained to treat the mad people by

playing music to them and these

musicians were master musicians that

they would base it on the pulse and

based it on this humoral theory because

melancholia is from one of the four

humors the out-of-balance of that so

they would try to reestablish

this and they did to have success if you

read their books and believed for what

they're saying they had extraordinary

success with this the culmination of

this second part of these arts was

astronomy and I was very fortunate in

living in West Africa because that is

one of the few places where they still

teach sacred astronomy and again these

are Bedouins that I was introduced into

the rudiments of sacred astronomy which

is the observation of the order of the

heavens and watching that order and

understanding for instance like right

now the moon is in Leo if you go out

tonight and you see the constellation

Leo which is a stunning constellation

that can actually be seen in this area

the moon is in Leo right now and it will

be in Leo for two and a third days and

then it moves and this is not related to

astrology although it was used for

astrology as well and there were many

astrologers but this is not astrology

it's observing these lunar mansions

there are 28 lunar mansions that the

moon goes through every month because

the moon does around the earth what the

Sun does the experience of the Sun in a

year the moon does in a month and there

is a correlation between these movements

all based on 360 degrees and related to

this secret of the circle I mean this is

very deep order that people were

introduced to in these traditional

cosmologies that are found all over the

planet I mean this is not something that

is simply found in West Africa this was

also found in India it was found

Central Asia was found in Asia it was

found in Europe and it was certainly

found here I mean we have extraordinary

evidence here of the Native American

Indians that were heavily involved in

sacred astronomy and aligning the

heavens and the earth and this is part

of the sacred tradition of the ancient

Greek idea the Pythagorean idea as above

so below that in serving the order of

the heavens and is what Plato says is

the greatest gift of the stars is that

they enable us to see order and in turn

desire that order in our own souls and

so this is at the root of a classical

understanding of Education was how do we

order ourselves that we are in harmony

with the world because everything out

there seems to be an extraordinary

harmony and it is the human being that

seems so adept at being disorderly at

being chaotic at being out of sync with

the world and Wordsworth's home is a

complaint about that that we're out of

sync with nature that we've lost that

ability and he preferred being a pagan

that what we could see that order

and experience it then to have a creed

that divorced him from that I want to

finish here with two things and then

I'll close up a couple of quotes about

education education is a perennial

problem it always has been Will Rogers

said schools ain't what they used to be

and they never was so it is an ancient

problem people have been complaining

about it for a long time Mark Twain said

that first God invented idiots for

practice and then he invented school

boards there's some really extraordinary

things that have been said about

Education Alexander Dumas remarked how

is it that little children are so

intelligent and men are so stupid it

must be education Robert Frost to find

education I think this is the

things I've seen and that's why I wanted

to comment on it a little bit education

is the ability to listen to almost

anything without losing your temper or

self-confidence and I would say that is

a civilized human being and so

ultimately if I have an illiterate

person that's able to do that I would

consider them educated and that's why I

personally do not equate education with

literacy I really don't some of the most

intelligent people I've ever met were

illiterate if you want to know the whole

American foreign policy it was summed up

to me by a Bedouin from Yemen who

absolutely had no education and he said

you know what the problem with your

country is and I said what he said it's

like a story we have in Yemen about a

wolf that came down to a pond and he saw

a sheep about to drink from the pond and

he said I'm going to eat you

and the Sheep said what did I ever do to

you he said you mucked up my pond he

said I haven't even touched it yet he

said well you did it last year I wasn't

born last year well your father mucked

it up that's basically what he said

that's America I want to give you

another good example we can get rid of

all the environmentalists and all the

UNESCO and all these United Nations

councils on saving the environment and

employ a deaf illiterate man that I met

in West Africa who one of the Western

students was there and he wanted to

build a tent because I lived in a what's

called a host you go out and you get

branches and you set them up and then

you show up burlap sacks and then make

your little house and that was student

housing that I lived in and this young

Western student went he was started to

chop down a tree and this illiterate

slave really from

group of people that were traditionally

slaves in Mauritania illiterate he came

up me said don't do that what are you

doing he said I was going to chop it off

to make a hose he said no you don't do

that just take a branch and go from

another tree and take another branch

don't chop down the tree he said you

have a right in the tree but the tree

has rights with you don't take the tree

away because there's animals that

benefit from that tree there's people

that sit under the shade and that's how

he explained it to this young Western

person who just thought I'll just chop

the tree down well that's somebody who's

lived in an environment that understands

that natural resources are limited

trees are limited in West Africa and

that's when he taught that young man it

and that's an immense lesson to learn

take what you need but don't destroy

there's plenty to go around very simple

lesson so in learning without losing our

temper or ourselves in our temper or our

self-confidence is to really I think the

conjugated and the Arabs have a

beautiful word for intellect which is

him and this word in its root meaning is

to suck milk the breasts in Arabic is

Halima and it comes from the same root

it's to take milk from the mother and

the reason that they use that is because

him is an unperturbed state it is the

state a child is in when it is suckling

and the word for intellect is the same

word intellect is to be unperturbed to

be in a state in which you can make

sense of your world even in the midst of

immense chaos immense calamity that you

maintain that unperturbed state because

you've been given

this incredible gift of intellect of

reason that losing your state like

Chicken Little that state of the sky is

falling the sky is falling of losing

that is to lose your sanity and sanity

is another beautiful word which means

hell I mean that is a sane human being

as a healthy human being and so at the

root is learning how to listen to others

to absorb the ideas of others to

recognize that you don't know everything

that I don't know everything that with

this is give and take the children have

as much to teach us as we have to teach

them because they remember things that

we've forgotten and that's why their

world is so extraordinary it has immense

things to offer us and one of the things

that I do with my children as a practice

sometimes my children will come in say

you have to see this you have to see

this and I try to force myself to get

into the same state they're in and say

what what and they said this this bug

and then we both run outside and they

show me look and I oh my god

that's the most extraordinary thing I

want to be in that state I want to

experience the world with those those

new eyes because it's all new you know I

hate when you ask people how things

going same old same old what are you

talking about where cells have been

replicated in the last three months you

don't even exist the same person I saw

three months ago doesn't even exist

they're gone the physical being is

completely renewed it's all new and that

newness of life that is what children

have and that's what our educational

system Rob's from them

destroys losing that excitement about

learning the word in Arabic to find

something means to become ecstatic

Vegeta ecstatic in Latin ex faces to to

come out of the cell and that is what

education is about is rosing the cell

you reach

I mean we have that in our tradition

Eureka and the story is that he was so

excited he ran down the street naked

shouting Eureka Eureka because he

discovered something extraordinary about

the physical universe and those

discoveries about the physical universe

are hors d'oeuvres for what we discover

about the metaphysical world really and

they're both there for the taking and

and I would really like just to see our

children be allowed to retain that

innocence and that power and that desire

to know that so deeply embedded in every

cell in their body thank you very much

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