afraid of is their governments and
that's what they're they're afraid or
American bombs dropping on their head or
drone strikes those are the things that
Muslims are afraid of they're not afraid
of their next-door neighbor you actually
have a great leader of our online
community from below I'm just going to
quickly read this Muslims in North
America are split along ethnicity
parties and home countries they are not
one block like jus so that goes to
exactly what you were saying is I agree
we're not monolithic you know and I
think also they're not the Jews aren't
one block either I think that's a gross
generalization generalization the Jewish
community has people from Eduardo Kohan
Noam Chomsky to you know po turrets and
these right-wing people you know the
Weekly Standard so you get a whole
spectrum in the Jewish community and you
know they're very liberal Jews their
Marxist Jews there are you know Zionist
Jews yeah i think is important to
introduce into this conversation that
the language of us and them this
language isn't going to advance the
human project at this point it's time to
redirect the language and think that
we're all in this together and and to
it's time for our society here in the
West it's time for us to do some
introspection it's indeed terrible that
400 4,000 or 5,000 American soldiers
light lost their lives in Iraq but it's
even more terrible that over
Iraqis have lost their lives due to the
same okay so that also also we've got
we've got ten suicides a day of American
soldier actually a it's 1818 yeah 18 a
day I mean we're using cyl intersections
here between the Islamic message in the
Christian message in the Jewish meshes
where does this all converge to to
actually change this is the human mess
it's a human message right I'll call
that bet yeah I know but the religious
look first of all you know you you've
lived long enough to know that most
people just want to be left alone you
know people don't like to have their
toes stepped on you know I once stepped
on somebody's toes imam zaid was with me
I almost got my head cut off you know
because you know people don't like to to
be a you know dist as they say in this
culture and and when you go around
denigrating people we have laws almost
every European nation has hate laws you
know first freedom speech like look look
up the the the Irish law of 1989 of hate
speech you know you have we signed on to
the United Nations we have a covenant of
political and civil rights article 20 of
that covenant says that you cannot
insight to hatred of of race nationality
or religion and a lot of what's
happening now is this is incitement to
hatred that there are people that really
have a lot invested in creating a lot of
hatred Stephen King wrote an interesting
novel called needful things you know
about this character that goes into a
town and opens a little store and
everybody wants to buy they go and they
find what exactly what they want but he
makes them do a little thing and by the
end of it the whole town is just
fighting each other and he packs up and
leaves you and that's the devil's role
whether you believe in Devils you know
these kind of spiritual beings or just
human demons it's a demonic role to
split people I have no reason to take
offense from you unless you give me
reason and and I think most people are
like that but you have people out there
that have you know just they have
agendas there are people that make money
off war there are people that make money
off weapons these are real people out
there and we should be forewarned about
them and do everything we can and we
should be presenting an alternative
Bailey agreeing with you I want to
quickly bring them in on society because
it just makes sense we have a tweet here
from war fail Oakland he says you both
keep bringing up patients us from the
third world have been dealing with
oppression occupation colonization for
200 years I also quickly want to go to
Google hangout listen we're not talking
about just gonna hang out really quickly
I'm so sorry hint oh sorry go ahead and
finish sticker I'm so sorry sir no
saying the word patients came up once or
twice in this conversation we're talking
about how we can begin to look at these
problems differently how can we
introduce new parameters to frame right
discussions are ongoing on responding
instead of reacting and I mean that's
that's a different approach and also
framing these issues in terms of human
problems so we can take remove the
ground from under the demagogues who
capitalize on these divisions rather
their religious ratio or otherwise that
we we're in this together and these
extremists on both sides and it's a part
of the problem you know they're
extremists in this country you know that
are articulating these visions you can
there's an interesting book that just
came out about the the Muslim tide and
what he argues in that book is a
guardian writer but what he argues in
there is that you know this guy brevik
in in in Finland when he went out went
berserk which is I think a Scandinavian
word when he went berserk and killed 69
people wounded 150 if you actually read
his screed which is a 1583 pages it's
all about Muslims taking over Europe
this thing that but yeah or calls
eurabia and and they've proven and
there's a TED talk that proved that
Muslim demographics are dropping
radically Iran has lower birth rates
than many European countries right now
so there's this whole myth of the
Muslims are coming the Muslims are
coming be scared be afraid that used to
be the Red Menace you know my mom grew
up with the Red Menace alright that used
to be the the you know the Communists
were coming why do we need these
boogeymen when we're dealing with real
problems we have global warming we're
being told that that the ice is
melting on the on the plant we've got
fish are disappearing from the oceans
they say that in 20 years at current
fishing rates we won't have tuna fish
you just mentioned obesity problems
we've got one out of four people in this
country is dying of cancer right one out
of three women are going to get cancer
in their lifetime why aren't we
addressing all of this human energy to
the real problems of human beings and
not all these artificially created
problems because many of these problems
are really artificially created I'm
actually going to quickly go to Google
hangout we have hens from Chicago you
have a question for us about young
Muslims him can you hear me yes I can
hear you so I take them to the Imams
thank you for your really lively
discussion I actually agree with you
that it's important for the Muslim
community to take back the narrative but
my question is more around some of the
work that American Muslims specifically
are already doing many young American
Muslims are already working in the inner
city I'm from Chicago so I know a lot of
the work that myself and my friends are
doing working in the city trying to
prevent violence I'm trying to get some
healthy food in the inner city and
addressing like the food desert
situation and I want to maybe get an
answer from both of you do you think
that this kind of work that a lot of
American Muslims are doing even though
it's not really documented in a in a
narrative sort of way do you think
that's a of the maturation of the Muslim
society here in the US and then what are
some of your thoughts in terms of
actually sharing these stories with our
neighbors thank you well we know like
Iman the inner city project Rama Rama
Mississippi and others that are doing
also you have violence prevention that's
going on former gang members that became
Muslim to do these things I think one of
the major errors of the immigrant
community was not to recognize the
importance of the African American
Muslim community in these inner cities
so a lot of the inner-city Muslims were
neglected so you have this a lot of
wealth from doctors and engineers and
they fail to recognize that actually
these people aren't immigrants there
they're a large Muslim community that
have been here for decades and in fact
you can trace it back over 100 years for
some of them
so you know these have been strategic
errors and and ethical errors in my
estimation but I think there are a lot
of positive things happening and
certainly Chicago is one of the main
hubs for a lot of some of the most
positive Muslim activity in the United
States so hats off and I think that that
this is a very important sign of
maturation that you do have the
wealthier suburban more immigrant based
communities working with inner-city
initiatives such as in Chicago amen and
other efforts we job recently had an
Oakland California humanitarian day to
provide school supplies and other goods
to inner-city children and most of those
supplies were purchased by members of
the suburban community so you see these
efforts of Muslims crossing lines that
have formerly kept them apart you see
those lines being transcended and you
see a car leasing of collective action
so I think it's a sign of maturity and
it speaks for itself we don't need
orchestrated media campaign to lend an
artificial sense of just we're doing
some let's grow organically build a
better mousetrap in the whole world
including the media will beat a path to
your door I actually want to quickly go
over to our google hangout we have a
sama you have a question to us about
zaytuna college salma I think we lost
Google and all of their you are great
can you hear me yea Somali come to you
to imam zaid and touche from the end
everybody else here I just had a quick
question about zaytuna college I know
it's not really on topic but um since
you guys are still on accredited
institution and no really educational
governing body really in the world kind
of recognizes the college of degrees
that it Awards how do you guys plan on
maintaining say to the College in terms
of financially from in its image without
the world to make sure that keeps
getting students and tap trees its
revenue to increase its like just it's
like extending well i mean first of all
we are we are our degree is recognized
by a few different universities that
will accept for instance we just signed
a
of understanding with jami al fatiha in
istanbul in turkey that the prime
minister's son was actually the host
that evening of the event and they will
take our students in their masters and
PhD programs when they graduate we also
have understanding its in its developing
but we have an understanding and our
student from a pilot program was
accepted into the Graduate theological
union which has a joint program with UC
Berkeley so we are students can go to
accredited graduate schools in terms of
the sustainability jake onson so sorry
we have about 30 seconds left in the
program for you to just more
philosophically than talking about the
nuts and bolts of the school wrap wrap
this up for us right wrap up this
discussion you know I think it's good
that you guys are facilitating
alternative voices I think al Jazeera
despite the fact that you know some of
the aspects of it are troubling in their
imitation of Western media I think it's
it's important to have alternative
voices and I certainly think that giving
opportunities for people like ourselves
we're often completely marginalized in
in other media outlets I mean I've done
pre-interviews where they just say okay
we don't want to talk to you you know so
I you know I want to thank you for
allowing this this opportunity support
our college please and imam zaid you can
close it out this is how we are out of
time with imam zaid and shake council
you so thank you so much for being with
us we do want to take one more minute
that i gave over to a new shay with a
few story leads were following
the University of California is awarding
close to 1 million dollars to students
and alumni for police violence during a
campus protest you may recall this image
of university police pepper spraying
peaceful demonstrators who are
protesting tuition hikes that's public
money paying the cost of brutality
tweets Parker Higgins our next leads
from reddit where forum users attempt to
embarrass a woman took an unexpected
turn a user posted this photo of a Sikh
woman with the caption I'm not sure what
to conclude from this but user ball
Preet Kaur who identified herself as a
girl from the picture responded I'm not
embarrassed or even humiliated by the
attention that this picture is getting
because it's Who I am yes I'm a baptized
seek woman with facial hair Sikhs do not
reject the body that has been given to
us her response prompted an apology from
the original poster he wrote after
apologizing and talking with ball Preet
I've seen how stupid this post was in
the first place it isn't funny at all
our last lead is a new website that
tracks homophobic language in real time
on twitter canadian university officials
created no homophobes calm as a social
mirror to show prevalence of casual
homophobia and society the site tracks
mentions of four different derogatory
phrases over time lastly a little red
line on Iran's nuclear program drawn by
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin
Netanyahu is sparking online comments
speaking at the UN Netanyahu took a red
marker to a bomb diagram to show that he
thinks Iran is close to having a nuclear
capability netizens were quick to react
and Netanyahu's name skyrocketed to
20,000 mentions on twitter many of the
tweets were tongue-in-cheek sorry can't
tell you what the red line is av Meyer
tweets I can just tell you it's about an
inch and a half from the fuse on the
cartoon bomb others thought Netanyahu's
approach was effective Omri says every
single article is going to be about
Netanyahu drawing a red line on Iran
bomb message managed no you can find
links to all those leads on Twitter so
make sure to follow us at aj scream Lisa
alright that's all the time we have
thanks so much for joining us for this
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