Intellectual Foundation of Islamic Civilization

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SMIL r-rahim wa salatu was-salam wanna

shut up an MDI one more sitting by the

eddy here I even offer him also have the

teehee on until they are only axon and

EDA unit Dean what October to do nothing

hum Dillard's about the hot dogs I had a

friend who came from Persia and he

arrived in London and he was going to

study there and so on Englishman picked

him up part of the university and he

told him he was hungry so he said oh you

have to come I know this place that has

the best hot dogs and he said my dear

friend in my country we neither eat dogs

hot nor cold

now I had that Englishman taken the

advice he wouldn't be susceptible to

what they now call mad cows disease

although we didn't need any scientific

studies to prove about the madness of

the beef eaters so but that's a that's

one of the nice things about difference

of opinion if you tend to follow the

more strict one you rarely get in

trouble so about eating beef in this

culture I for me it's not an issue of

halal or Haram it's really an issue of

Ayub or hadith which is pure and impure

because if you notice in the Quran when

Allah mentions haedong he always says

had Adam by a bet that follows haddad

which means how not just how / missed

ball but a year which means pure and one

of the Quranic injunctions is to look

for escapa amma in solitude calf the

purest of food so what you you know

build your cells within your bodies is

based on the food in fact there's a

twentieth-century naturopath in the

United States that coined the term you

are what you eat but in fact if you look

even IML josiya him wallah actually said

one of the reasons that it is prohibited

to eat the move Teddy sets meaning those

animals that that as what do they call

them carnivorous animals you know but

most eros is more than carnivorous it

means like something that really attack

other animals the hunter animals and he

said the reason is is because you don't

want to take on the qualities of that

animal and and so he had an

understanding that you know that what

you eat that's why the muslims

traditionally ate lamb because they're

gentle creatures they're not they're

humble and the Prophet this is a fact

the Prophet SAW lyceum said the people


who have camels are tend to be arrogant

people that that's true it's in a Hadees

sound happy they tend to be arrogant

people and the people that have Lam tend

to be gentle people and this is lamb and


the early all of the prophets have

looked after lamb and goat because it

teaches that gentle quality in

characteristic what doesn't mean which

washing right gentleness is not

wishy-washy in other words there's a

time for Jib and harshness when the wolf

comes the Shepherd doesn't act like a

sheep right he acts like a wolf and

devours the wolf before the wolf devours

him or his flock so there's a time for

both but the dominant characteristic of

the prophets Eliza miss Rama not either

although he also has a quality that is

hidden or that seriousness that

necessitates at times severity I just

want to say about the some of the things

that I wanted to cover were covered by

chef Jemil

before me but just generally about the

Islamic intellectual heritage I think

the first thing there is a modern

concept or an idea that I've noticed

that some people have that Islam is

somehow a simple religion that it's

presented as this simplistic what guy

eaten in the destiny of man calls the

boyscout religion and I think that

that's a great disservice to the

tradition of Islam because the Quran

actually directs the message to what are

called allah al bab the people of

innermost core Lube is depth lube is the

thing that is the innermost thing of a

fruit the lube is the inner most and so

the people who the quran really is

speaking to are the people that have

depth that have innermost core now there

is a hadith that says hadouken watanabe

own that the people of Tonopah are

destroyed that happy is sometimes

translated as those who delve too deeply

into matters get destroyed which is

really a disservice to that hadith

because the Hadees is actually talking

about the Rabbinical deviation which is

to go into great detail about matters to

the point where you get lost in the

detail and then can't see the big

picture and those people get destroyed

and those are the people that will go to

such an extreme about every little picky

detail and they get destroyed by that

tendency and so the Prophet SAW lisen

was warning about that and he said yeah

c'mon Luther Deen

beware of extremities in this teaching

were also in the hadith and elbow hadith

Lenya shed Medina had only loved Alaba

no one goes to that extreme and he's not

talking about depth or proven duty of

understanding he's talking about

becoming picky in the details or

attempting to encompass the whole of the

Islamic teaching because the teaching

cannot be encompassed by any one

individual and that's why we are on Ouma

we are a body of believers and the body

if you look at it is not the same thing

even though it's structural foundation

is based on cells the cells make up

different organs different elements

different aspects so the body has bones

and the OMA has bones it has a

structural foundation which is is the

Islamic hokum or the governance it's the

the system of justice that is

established by the people of Justice and

then it has the heart which is the heart

of Islam is the people that are

maintaining the life of Islam both its

intellectual and spiritual they're

pushing the blood to the far reaches of

the body and the lifeblood of this Deen

is is in and by him

going to go into that inshallah by

knowledge we don't understand it as

information the Muslims have never

understood in as information because if

knowledge was information what that

means is is that the Orientalist is an

alum you see the one who studies like at

McGill or Harvard University Islam and

learns all of the different aspects of

Islam and can come and give a lecture in

a Masjid and give you tafseer of Quran

and quota for Toby and even al arabi and

all the Abu Bakr and ivory and all of

the great Mufasa Dean and even his he'll

just make you amazed and yet what is at

the essence disease vehicle be him model

he has a disease in his heart and his

diseases in AD its obstinacy that he

hasn't submitted to the message so the

annum is never the one who has the most

information and the idea here is in the

words of him America rattle on when he

said they said any cutter to rewired

knowledge is not having a lot of rewired

of a lot of narrations wa lakin alma

neuron Halawa who Allah who via Alban

movement but not true knowledge is a

light that a lot of places in the heart

of the believer and that light is the

light that is the result of the the

intellectual aspect of knowledge

literally beginning to merge with the

flesh and blood of the human being

it's what even Raja for Hungary calls

MOBA genre tool in albin movement when

the the knowledge literally begins to

have a penetration into the heart of the

movement and begins to permeate the life

blood of the movement and so this

knowledge is literally in and reading

the human being and he becomes gem she

the nor he walks with this light and

this really is the essence of Islamic

knowledge neuron Allen or it is light

upon light in other words the

informational aspect the the analytical

aspect the intellectual aspect is norm

but then

new or it's on another light it's light

upon light and that can be looked at

also like father Dean arrazi rahamallah

and his great tafseer which has been

maligned in this present age they say

fee equal fee

kullu shay'in illa tafseer in it is

everything but tafseer a great untruth

one of the superb intellectual

contributions to this Ummah is that book

despite the fact that there are aspects

in it like any book that need to be

watched carefully and avoided because of

some of the influences that that he was

affected by through Hellenistic thought

and ideas but this has never been a

reason to reject the knowledge of a

people by certain cultural influences

that exist at a time the Muslims have

never done that to their scholars we

have always taken and benefited from

people if you look at the great the the

great rhetorician of Islam is a machete

he is accepted by the ulama as being

really the pinnacle of understanding in

Bulava despite that fact his tafseer has

some dangerous ideas in it that have

been rejected for centuries by the

Muslims because he was up the Martez

elight school he was a marked sed and

for that reason I've never met an alum

of any worth that didn't have his book

in their library and yet they will say

you have to watch out what he says sort

of the tech wheel for instance in the

chapter of Turk we're you don't pay any

attention to his design but that doesn't

mean you don't benefit from the man's

knowledge and this is the difference now

I'll tell you interestingly in this

modern period and this is part of the

fascism or the Terrorism intellectual

terrorism of certain elements there are


elements that have bought up publishing

houses in the Muslim world and they have

actually altered text and taken out

sections and this is called Keanu to


it's treachery in the narration and the

Muslims have never done that they've

left everything in the books that the

island put in there and I've seen this

with my own eyes because I had a copy of

a book which is the tafseer of a mimosa

we added JAL Elaine and there was a

section that was whited out and somebody

I saw an edition when I was in West

Africa that was published in the 1940s

in Egypt where the section wasn't

whitened out and it happened to talk

about a certain group of Muslims that

the Imam wasn't pleased with and this

certain group of Muslims published the

later edition of that book and took out

they whited out the section now in the

most recent edition which I have seen

they didn't even bother that you know

these Widing it out you know whom I

wonder what was there before

now they because of computers you can

just delete they moved it up so there's

no whiteout anymore so this is a danger

if you think about it you know what

happens to the books of Islam especially

computerization it's actually quite a

frightening thing because with

computerization things can be added to

books and computers are a double-edged

sword you know like everything else in

life it has dual edged and one of the

problems with this sword is there's

really not a handle in other words

though it's just the blade so it's very

dangerous you know I mean this internet


for instant people somebody put out a

whole thing about me that just made up

completely like a biography and I was in

England and Jim in fact chef Jemil was

there he had left he had to go somewhere

else but they introduced me and this man

started reading this biography of some

day I've never even heard of except the

out the same name as me and I said

I said what's that he said your

biography I got it off the internet I

said I won't even let you know right

that's I don't even know that person

throw that away and now it's in the data

sphere right you can't even pull it back

if you wanted to so I mean this is a

danger of this whole thing where people

don't write their names which is another

part of our intellectual tradition

scholars always put their names on books

and now there's books published where

they don't even put their name on it

so you don't even know it'll say

something like much more to Mennella

Dudamel like a group of the Ummah who

are they I want to know who they are

I saw one thing a fatwa that was put out

from South Africa by modulus Alou Lama

and it doesn't say who they are and it

was a company knit it was amazing

because it was a fact that were based on

the hanafi madhhab that even got the Med

have wrong I mean they were quoting

about Juma had to be in Arabic and Abu

Hanifah Abdullah know is is one of the

Imams that says it doesn't have to be

and you can look even in the short hala

Marathi and fella it'll say with a

second hook but to what I will parasya I

mean this is Hanafi Mehta the hoopla is

valid even if it's in Persian which was

the dominant language of the atom at

that time where our Hani Ferelden Locker

was so that's the dominant position his

head Medhat but they put it out like no

it's Haram to give a Papa in Arabic

which in the monarchy fit yeah you can't

give a hot but in Arabic even if there's

no Arabs you pray the whore according to

your mom attic also according to Ahmed

but Imam Shafi and Imam Abu Hanifa

permit the hot bath in Arabic and so

here's an example of a group that didn't

even get there men have right which

makes it even more problematic and then

put out this fatwa and then people say

oh how long to give hot pan Arabic they

read this thing it says much lesser


it's from the Council of the ulama

heman Mishnah saloon Emma you know I

lose this matchless who I mean first of

all man Anna Anna Adam Papa jahida

whoever says I'm an Adam is ignorant

that's a party de in in fact one time I

said to this shift of one of my teachers

from Mauritania we were talking about

something and he said well it's like us

and he was referring to himself he said

anima Achilles a man the the the

scholars of the end of time and that was

a kind of self-deprecating statement

well I mentioned that to another Adam

and he said subhanAllah a diner in the

after as a man he's even claiming to be

an atom from the end of time so this was

something that was known like in the

Quran in surah Baqarah when allah

subhana wa tada says that way dot

eliyahu a tuxedo for our part in Amman

an emotion that in the human Massa don't

they're the Musa dune a Lima man oughta

be says why the anima dad is LA because

they claimed a slaw they said in an

anonymously home and anyone who says

there are mostly is not Muslim and if

you look at the saw at the eyes in the

Quran they always say the moon is

orbiting at the under moon is always

make us from amongst them in other words

it's not saying I am a Mormon

I'm a no it's saying make us amongst

them that's a statement of humility put

us in their company even though we're

unworthy of it and this is the

difference you see it's a very different

so just to look at you know in broad

strokes because that's all we can do in

any type of format like this is attempt

to look together at broad strokes the

the Islamic phenomenon is a phenomenon

of knowledge this is what it is the fact

that the first revelation that we all

know is Amara reads EPROM

this is the first revelation and it

comes amazingly enough to a man who

responds by saying ma Ana be a party I

don't know how to read now the beauty of

the Arabic language is that it has a lot

of equivocal terms terms that can mean

more than one thing re in the Arabic

language me

is to orally transmitted to recite or it

means to read it has both meanings so it

can mean literally to recite if you say

to somebody a para to whom inca saddam i

mentioned your piece to him in other

words I said assalamu alaykum to him or

acara mineus are on a para woman near

salam recite to him my salaam that's

saying to do it orally

now if you look at any human

civilization it is founded upon an oral

tradition before it is founded on a

literate tradition this any human

civilization and I think oma really

means civilization if you look at Olin

because on them the owner are these

civilizations they because of what OMA

does it's from the word Ummah

which means mother and the mother is the

humanizing element in society she is the

one that gives us our civility she's the

one that teaches us our Adel she's the

one that really nurtures us and makes us

human beings and this is why children

that are brought up in households that

do not have the mothering element in it

will tend to be sociopathic or or

deviant in their nature that people that

had that nourishment from the mother

what in the Western tradition is called

the milk of human kindness you see the

milk of human kindness this is what the

mother gives to the child is the milk of

human kindness what's called Halima

which is the the literally in Arabic

means the the nipple of the human being

the this is the source of him which is

for parents it's the ability to be human

and the Halim is the one who's gentle

and had the helm is literally from the

milk of the mother and this is why what

is the name of the wet nurse of the

Prophet Halima

Satya Halima she's the one that gave the

Prophet his helm this is where this is

the source of his help and she is the

one who she had pity and

passion on your team Oh Benny Hashem

she's the one that said to her husband

let's take this poor she was Halima she

was the one that said let's take this

poor orphan what a moment you know

historically what a moment - what was in

her heart in that moment looking at the

best of creation you know it's it's

something awesome something


this is Halima Satya you know who gave

the prophets Eliza I'm the milk of human

kindness the wet nurse of the Prophet

the more Dionne and the Prophet said

yakuman more day after hawa the inital

healthy beware of these stupid wet nurse

because she's giving more than milk you

see so look for the the milk that's

going to give more than just bodily

sustenance there's something else being

transmitted there which is one of the

secrets of the Cobra in Ravana

I mean why is it that just from taking

the milk of a woman you become the son

of that child or the daughter of that

mother giving the milk in Sharia I mean

this is something phenomenal just by

simply taking the milk you become a son

or a daughter of that woman and you had

and she has the rights of a mother over

you it's it's fascinating to look at

these aspects of Sharia so the the

civilization the civilizing aspect is

the oral aspect and this is why the

woman has traditionally been the oral

element in culture the prophets Eliezer

is called a Nabil only now only means

oral because it's from the mother only

if you look at it as a Yan is about

what's called Yin is BA in the Arabic

language only also means from the mother

and the reason for that is it's as if

it's like the day their mother gave them

birth are still in that pure state and

this is the oral aspect that is

transmitted through

knowledge of the mother because the

mother tends to have the the oral she is

the vehicle for the oral transmission of

culture she's transmitting culture

orally to the child and this is you know

what was traditionally happening now

there can be no literacy without orality

a human being cannot become literate

without having the basis of morality and

this is why telling stories is so

important to children this is one of the

phenomenon of all cultures and

civilizations is that the mother tells

stories to the child she tells us and

she tells the rewire and now if you look

at the word the rewire in Arabic it

comes from word to be nourished to be

satiated because by nature we are

lacking us us as human beings we need a

narrative by which to live our lives

every civilization has a narrative there

is no civilization without a narrative

every single human civilization has a

narrative by which they live their life

now what the Quran is is a tional a

sauce it is the best of narrations in

other words if you take the narrative of

the Quran then you will create a scene

and among the best kuntum rival ulna OD

judgmental-ness if you take the pathos

of the quran and embody that and in

bible and be satiated by it turtle we

become people of Rivia of transmission

and this is why this oma has continued

to transmitted orally the quran it is a

rewire before it son nothing before its

qatar but it is poor and before its kita

and so there's a transmission that takes

place and in that transmission is the

quench thirsting process the process by

which the human beings thirst is

quenched for a need of narrative and

this is why one of the things that the

we are warned about is those who you

should do that that the bar of people

from the way of Allah how be level

hadith by vein

these stories now if you look at if you

look in sorta to look man at this Manuel

Hadid those who used to yeah Sheila

Hadid they are pseudo and severely led

to in order to take people away from the

subpoena of Allah this was related by a

man who used them to take some say Mohan

yet but others say I saw seen people who

used to tell story so the people who

were going to Darul Aram on the way to

here Arsenal causes the best of stories

they would this man wanted to prevent

them from going to Donald Aram

so he used to put these I saw seen these

storytellers on the path and they would

tell the stories of the Romans and the

Persians the mythology and some of the

people used to be deviated by it in

other words they would stop and listen

oh this is interesting

Zeus and Minerva and Arachne and Venus

and Adonis and and myth bruh and Aruna

and all these interesting mythologies

because they're fascinating look at

Joseph Campbell

look at this man who who mesmerised

America you know and I don't know about


I mean America's mesmerised anyway but

he mesmerized Canada America by telling

stories that's all he did if you watch

joseph campbell on the PBS series on

mythology he just sat and told stories

that's all he did but they're not axonal

Casals they're not the best of stories

their stories nonetheless and people

just get some nourishment from it but

our nourishment is what is the one Llyod

ma ba da ba da he will never be thirsty

after he gets these stories this is the

quran the one who gets the four on

doesn't his thirst is quenched the one

who doesn't have the Quran he needs to

keep hearing the stories and new ones

and new diversions and new why because

there's no quenching nature there's no

thirst quenching aspect to these stories

they're empty in the end they are empty

that's all they are they're empty

stories so there has to be an or

allottee which is the foundation of

literacy and this is why this

is unique unique amongst omen is that we

have maintained orality in our tradition

and Nabeel only nanometer lumia we're

and oral people lennick to varanasi boo

we don't were not people of writing nor

are we people this inside Muslim nor are

we people have but from this oral

tradition literally emerges the most

literate human society that has ever

existed on the face of the earth without

any comparison with the possible

comparison of the some of the Chinese

dynasties that were extraordinary

literate the Chinese have traditionally

been literate but in what Elfa Singh

it's a hadith there's another in it but

even a blood barber relates it and he's

one of the great hadith in half of the

mother but and the concept is true

anyway seek knowledge even enter China

so seen had some wisdom and one of the

famous things of the Arab proverbs is

undulated hikmah to anetha death not

wisdom has descended upon three at

military unity gain the brains of the

Greeks say I'm a Greek from

the brains of the greens and the idea

had all seen the hands of the people of

China see they had a great literate

tradition writing extraordinary books

Ellison Ethel Adam and the orality of

the Arabs the tons of the Arabs see

wisdom is is this oral tradition that's

transmitted and part of the transmission

is that it transcends the subject-matter

itself in other words by entering into

the oral tradition by sitting at the

feet of the teacher of the shape you are

in a transformative environment which is

different from simply reading a book and

this is why there's power simply in

transmission of knowledge even in this

format you see the experience of

transmission of orality is different

from books and this is why we come to

lectures this is why we can listen to

lectures because there's something that

is transcends simply the words there's

something that transcends the

information it is the actual nature of

the human being that allah subhanaw

taala has made the the susan the ear

itself the customer of the tongue you

see the booth in comes to buy from the

tongue and if you look at earthen is a

extraordinary word in arabic it one of

the meanings of permission in the quran

as in elcome Allah has permitted for you

comes from cousin because the other is

what the movement uses to wait for the

ulema of Allah for the commands of allah

subhana wa ta'ala we wait to hear what

Allah subhana WA Ta'ala has to tell us

and so in this this or anitya merge this

literacy now if you look at it initially

the prophets Allah lightest of them

taught in a circle what is called

Hanukkah right which is a very important

word because it also has the idea of

cutting you know able to cut to sever if

you look at all the words in Arabic that

deal with words they have this

connection with cutting with several

Kalima Kalama if you look at the root

words of these alum itself you believe

mu to cut Kadima is to cut like a sword

half which is letter is the edge of a

sword that you cut with you see this is

all related why because this is the

nature of words they're piercing they

cut the gathered news of the intellect

and entered into for an for on and this

is why the quran in its ultimate sense

is a gathering the word in arabic for

the meaning of quran is a gathering that

which gathers the quran is jana before

it's moved further and so the quran

enters you into the discourse if you

listen to it either korolenko mark or an

when the Quran is already recited to you

not when you read the Quran either or

you Lincoln when you hear the Quran

first emiru level listen attentively to

it open the ear up vamsi to and be

silent stop the chatter stop the

internal chattering and listen to the

planet or a moon that perhaps you might

be people that become recipients for

divine Rama for Rama itself which is why

this wizard why we're here this is the

whole reason this is the reason why to

become recipients of divine Rama Allah

subhana WA Ta'ala says in the Quran well

I is an animal that even worried Erica

Hama home in a Moroccan Arabic aah they

continue to be in differentiation in 50

laughs and for that reason he created

them Eleonora him our Ibuka in other

words he created them according to a

badass retort a moon that from amongst

the creation are those who leave the

state of if to death and enter into a

state of 80 laughs of Harmony and they

become the recipients of divine Rama

what is Erica hidaka whom i litter Hemu

order to become recipients of rama and

this is why we were created but the

source of our team is entering into the

gather Ness of Quran which then takes

you into the four and now the Arabic

word for a means the you for eco to

separate to split to divine because this

is the nature of the intellect in the

intellect is a piercing element you see

it's it's something that allows for

differentiation to occur but then we

move back to the Quran and this is why

from silence we enter into the words and

then the words emerge back into silence

and this is part of the secret of these

stops and starts of the Quran allow look

fat would empty that in the Quran there

are places where you have to stop and be

silent because now the words have to

re-enter into the realm of gathered Ness

what on see to and be silent so that

this thing can pierce your hearts

because it will the Quran will pierce

the heart and so then from from this

movement into these the separateness

into for an is where all of intellectual

thought comes from moving out of the

state of or allottee into the state of

literacy because orality is like

gathered Ness the ear is an organ of

gathered nough sits not an organ of

separation like the eye you see it's an

organ of gathering us and this is why

once we move into the literate state we

move into before on and this is what the

intellect means in fact in the Latin in

Arabic the apple has to do with minute

which there's a whole semantic discourse

there but in Latin intellectus means to

discriminate between intellectus means

to discriminate between so the intellect

itself is a discriminatory faculty it's

what allows people to differentiate to

discriminate between Huk one Barton

that's why it was that's why we were

given it to a debate a rastaman I'll

write that the guidance is in contract

is clear counter distinction from

falsehood and how is that known through

the intellect itself now one of the

beautiful qualities of ft death is that

differences of opinion not

of the Muslims but of the other nations

is that different by its nature creates

a dynamic tension in human beings

you see if if you grew up in a Muslim

culture and we're never exposed to a

mullah head somebody that doesn't but

even God when suddenly you're exposed to

a mullah head what he will do or not

even a monofin if you leave for instance

if you grow up in Mauritania in the

desert you wouldn't even know that there

was such thing as a kaffir except by the

Quran because everybody there is Muslim

they don't even know like in Lebanon you

can grow up with Christian Jewish people

all different types of people in that

type of culture so you're used to that

you're accustomed to that there are

certain areas in the Muslim world still

where there are Muslims that have never

even seen a cafe I mean it's amazing

thing to think about now how do you

think he's going to feel when suddenly

after growing up for 20 years or 30

years he goes to Paris

and he meets a whole culture that

doesn't believe in what he basically

thought was the world suddenly he's

forced to really think what does this

mean and this creates a tension in the

human heart and this is why all of

intellectual activity is a result of

some type of tension there cannot be

intellectual activity without tension

and this is why in the history of Islam

some of our most brilliant thought comes

as a result of the Muslims being

impacted by intellectual forces that

were alien to their teaching and the

beginning of this is when the Muslims

met the Hellenistic Christians when the

Muslims I mean the Muslims had this

because Quran is not philosophy the

Quran is not even theology there is no

theology in the Quran theology is trying

to prove the existence of God the Quran

doesn't even it doesn't even bother with

that as we lay check is there doubt

about Allah I mean really if you think

about that the Muslims didn't need

somebody to come and convince them that

God existed and this is a lot of the

theological exercises of the Christians

was to prove rationally the existence of

God and unfortunately in many ways the

Muslims fell into that trap and a lot of

becomes attempting to prove the

existence of God which is an absurd

premise to start from no we have to

prove our own existence

there's I have this book called the

problem of God by I think his name

Angeles Dave and Angeles and I I think

it should be retitled the problem of

David Angeles you see but there is no I

mean God doesn't have a problem no you

have a problem don't God doesn't need

his existence to be proven prove your

own existence

you see really it's like they say you

know Nietzsche 1887 God is dead

Nietzsche 1887 Nietzsche is dead 1900

God right back that was the reply is he

because Nietzsche declared in the gay

science that God was dead now there's a

whole what he was saying is is actually

not trivial in fact because he wasn't

talking about God Allah he was talking

about the concept that the

reconstruction of reality in the minds

of people who literally basically just

described themselves one of the Greeks

said if horses had gods they would

certainly look like horses right and

this is one of the problems of the human

being we would like to project upon God

our own nature and God's nature time a

lot of male seafoam glory exalted is God

above their own descriptions muddy one

of the Jewish men in front of the

Provencal I said have described how

Allah has will roll up the heavens and

the earth in his fingers and and he

described in somewhat anthropomorphic

terms and the frozen ice in him when he

heard it Baca he laughed and he said my

little laptop uppity they haven't

estimated a lot in his true estimation

in other words if you only knew if you

only knew you see so this this

environment that was created through

this tension produced extraordinary

thought now one of the things that

happen the what we have to remember is

the Quran is a book and books by their

nature are words and words are

problematic because words have

any meanings I'm there's people here

that have heard things that I've said

now that maybe I didn't even intend but

this is the human nature we filter words

through our frames of reference there's

some cognitive psychology called

assimilation and accommodation theory

which is that what we tend to do is when

we think we tend to first assimilate it

and then we find in our frame of

reference how we can accommodate it and

the Western people are brilliant at this

they're brilliant at giving words for

everything like they'll say for instance

hearing my talk today they'll say huh

this is a devotional talk as opposed to

an objective talk you see I'm not being

objective because I'm being devotional

right and it's nice words they're

brilliant I mean if you want to just

memorize words go to university because

that's what they give you words for


Maggi last Mountain some may Tomo ha

they're just names that you name that's

all they do they name you see because

the gods of today are no longer Latin

Rosenman adds and wood and all they know

their concept evolution they say liberty

justice the American Way these type

thing the Marines sample Semper Fidelis

always faithful Semper Fidelis and it is

interesting that's the marine slogan

Semper Fidelis and fidelity is a man

that's faith what are you always

faithful to blind obedience that's what

they teach them if a Marine if they say

to run up that hill even though he's

gonna get killed

he's been brainwashed to where he'll do

it and then they think that our suicide

bombers right these people that go and

do this I'm and I say our because

whether we agree with them or not

they're Muslims right I mean they're

Muslims really they're they're Muslims

we can't say no no they're not

slum stuff for Allah no if somebody says

Leonid allah mohammed rasoolallah he's a

muslim whether he's right or wrong is

another matter and that's to be

discussed in another way all right so I

just want to make that clear so see they

say oh that is crazy human being who

would strap himself full of bombs and go

blow up you know a Marine base well the

man's themselves do the same thing only

they don't do it for you know trying to

liberate their land they usually do it

trying to conquer and other people I

mean that poor Lebanese man that blew up

that Marine base he was just basically

believing that he was defending his


that's different from a bunch of myrrh

and what are you doing in Lebanon where

are you from Kentucky what are you doing

in Lebanon

oh I'm defending uh why I basically got

sent here I mean that's really what

you're dealing with I mean so whose

rational and whose irrational this is

the question don't be fool we need

anthropology too

we need to study these beasties just

like they study us you see let's get

into their psychology let's see how they

think why is it they don't have number

13 in their elevators

I'm you ever think of that those

irrational Muslims

you I've been in Saudi Arabia there's

number 13 we don't have a problem with

13 what's your problem oh well uh well

let me think about that

you know Devils number Devil's number

well Jesus was one and he had 12

disciples one plus 12

that equals 13 was he a devil I mean


see we fall into these traps of

believing all this falls dialectic no

why because we don't have intellectual

tradition anymore we've become people

that really tend not to think like

everybody else which is unfortunate it

has its own interpretations but I wanted

to I got off on a now where was i before

that when I brought up do you remember

your suppose that that's what the

chairman's for years you're supposed to

be following then you give a summary and

no oral thing now is the beginning I

found it

he's thinking he's only got 15 minutes


where was who where was i cuz I went

into something and I didn't want to all

right yeah

Kalam theology projection I think that's

where we were projection projecting upon

that a words this is where I wanted to

go words and the meanings of words the

Quran itself because the Quran is words

it has to be understood now

understanding of the Quran means

understanding Arabic language in that

ananza Yahoo Quran and our via Lila

Kentucky loom we have placed this into

the Arabic language the uncreated word

of Allah is placed into the Arabic

language why in order that you know by

necessity because it will assist its

necessitate your thinking now one of the

things about the Arabic language is that

it's elliptical by nature it's what in

English they call ellipses the three

dots dot dot dot in other words they

don't tell you the whole sentence that's

called an ellipsis well in the Quran

there's a lot of ellipses why is that

because ellipsis demands that you think

it forces you to think when everything's

spelled out for you that does not force

you to think so by the nature Allah does

not want us to be passive reciters of

the qur'an he wants us to be active

studiers of the Quran he wants us he

wants to force us to think

lalume taki luna and so what this

necessity was a need for the grammar and

this is why grammar is really one of the

penultimate sciences of Islam and I say

penultimate because it's not the final

purpose grammar is not a purpose it is a

means the ultimate science is tafseer

you see which is to understand the Book

of Allah this is the highest science by

consensus of the dilemma to understand

the Book of Allah but despite that fact

many many our ulema were not more

faceting of some of the greatest dilemma

mmm Noah is one of the greatest of our


I mean of all the Luna math of book of

Acts Arman Iowa III ended him in a good


more than any other Adam why because

Iman oh we was given a tow vehicle that

I don't see in any other Adam of the

later period because his books are

accepted by everybody you know after the

Book of Allah readö Sahin or banana

hawea the the extraordinary much mana

which in the machete met have after Imam

and nobody showed up

the Shaffer is just shut up and started

quoting Imam no and he died before he

was 40 years of age just phenomenal

human being and this is part of our

intellectual legacy now the thing that

the fact is he never wrote tafseer he

commented on hadith and his main

emphasis was thick and hadith and

naturally also because it's necessary

why is that because there was a need and

this is what our ummah have always done

they have risen to the occasion whatever

the need was they fulfill it and this is

why the prophet elijah time said al

Allen is a meta animal future had full

return when the Adam dies an opening

emerges an intellectual opening in other

words our border now has a space layer

should do her build our animal aha

it will not be filled or protected

except by another animal so when the

donor - saw for instance that the Mojave

theme were dying off then that became

their emphasis if you look at one of our

greatest intellectuals above acaba

Kalani I mean phenomenal Iraqi and

scholar he initially was a fuckiní in

the Maliki school when he saw that the

dominant fitten of his age were in

Kalama in theology he became and what to

kill him despite the fact that theology

is of all the sciences the least

important in terms of I won't say the

least important what I will say the

least desired I won't say the least

important because it has its deep

importance but it's the least desire why

because the anima did not like Callum if

you read the earlier limit they did not

like collab in fact I think the reason

they called it Callum is in an almost


it's like empty talk but when the

shabiha is there there has to be an alum

who makes his own and other super hot

which is to to to reply to counter argue

the doubtful matters emerging into the

understanding of the Muslims that is an

obligation on the ulama and this is an

age of sugar bohat and we have so many

choco hat and we don't have animal

replying to it because we don't have

this level anymore this is one of our

deep crises in this age and so of a

baccarat Bellini or him oh Allah when he

saw that the the crises at that point

was was Kalam he became the greatest

with the killing of his age and refuted

all of the sex of his time and he was

sent by the Muslim caliph to Rome to as

an ambassador to Constantinople

when he entered into Constantinople the

the Emperor at that time they were very

arrogant it was their tradition that

they had to bow just literally go into

full rakuen

to the Emperor and he wanted a bucket of

belani to bow to him and his sake for

the bishops told him no the Muslims

don't bow except to Allah and so he said

well work out some way that will force

him to bow so what they did is when to

get in order to get into his chamber

they put a small narrow arch and that

would force him to come in to it bow you

see now up a bucket Arbuckle and this is

intellect when he came to that chamber

and he saw the king's throne behind it

he turned his back

and came in backwards you see and this

upset the ruler but what can you do

I mean you're gonna force a man to so

when he got there the bishops greeted

him and he said he greeted them back and

he said how is your children and your

wives and the bishops looked at each

other and they said what are you asking

about don't you know that we're not

Anna's Oh

and then I had well out lad that we're

exalted above having children and having

wives and he said ie tetanus ahuna and

an ad without lab potency wound it a lie

and I had well whether you consider

yourself above wives and children and

yet you attribute to Allah subhana WA

Ta'ala a cohort and a child you see babu

hatela decaf ah this is the head job of

ibraheem bui

and lady cava he was amazed boogita

his intellect suddenly went into you

know what shut down in computer language

what happens crash you see it crashes

you know file item aha

you know your mouth means I mean it

means to to overwhelm them with Hodja

but the root word is is like smashing

the brain you see so you literally bleed

he can't well he doesn't know what to

say and then the king said you see they

knew Islam they were living with the

Muslims they knew he said tell us about

hadith or if we want to hear about

hadith or if which is when Aisha was

accused of adultery everybody knows that

so Abu Bakr Abu Bakr and Maha Lonnie

said nam to righteous women Mary and

Aisha they were both accused of adultery

as for Mary she became pregnant as for

Aisha she didn't but Allah has absorbed

both of them of any blemish you see

this is power because words are power we

don't say the word is mightier than the

pen you know that I'm in the sword the

pen is mightier than the sword

no the pen is a sword the pen is a sword

it's safer hop and it has its time in

its place and it chops off next Barbary

Paul that's what it does it takes off

the because it separates the intellect

because it's so powerful overwhelming

now just to look quickly and how how

much time the the the grammar if you

look at the sciences that were developed

by the Muslims grammar is the really the

Arabic grammar is the first deep

intellectual analysis of language prior

to that grammar was very superficial the

Arab grammarians went into such depth

and profundity into the language that

they priests aged all of modern

linguistic thought and theory really I

mean you take old grammar books from

Masada and Kufa which were the two great

centers of grammar in the classical

Islamic world and and you look at the

ideas that these people were talking

about you literally become overwhelmed

and amazed at the subtlety and the depth

of this intellectual tradition they

scientifically broke down the Arabic

language they recognized patterns that

had not been recognized in language

before what they now call semantic trees

diagramming they were doing all of these

things they taught the Jewish people

grammar of Hebrew prior to that the

Hebraic grandma was extremely

rudimentary if you look the Hebrews did

not even know that their language was

based on try literal roots they didn't

know that it was the Muslim primary that

taught them that the Muslim grammarians

taught them adjectives the Hebrew

language is extremely poor in adjectives

all of midian

Hebraic poetry is based on Arabic meters

of poetry that was developed by Holi

development the Jews did not have

sophisticated poetry prior to that no

their great poetry that if he went to

Tel Aviv University is all based on n to

the C and Jewish poets who were

imitating the metres of the Muslim

poetry you see so they have a massive

intellectual debt and I really think in

a lot of ways the intellectual debt that

Europe what they call quote unquote the

judeo-christian culture which is a

fabricated word invented in the 1930s or

something like that prior to that they

used to call it the greco-roman culture

and then suddenly this word starts

popping up and and now it's become the

judeo-christian I mean obviously during

the pogroms in Europe that existed that

no European would want Judea attached to

Christian culture I mean that would be


why were they kicking them all out so

tradition it was the greco-roman culture

but these people have such a massive

debt to the Muslim Ummah that really it

goes beyond explanation I mean that you

just have to superficially look at their

own Sciences and all of their methods I

mean one of the theories this is the

traditional European Orientalist theory

about Islam that all of the classical

Hellenistic tradition was deposited in

the bank of the Muslim Khilafah right in

other words we got all these books we

put them in the bank and we never looked

at them and there was no accruing of

like interest intellectual interest they

just stayed there and then these great

Europeans rediscovered these books right

and then that was it that's a complete

fabrication of what happened

the Muslims took Hellenistic thought and

expanded on it criticized it throughout

large sections of it use sections of it

and it was reintroduced in Europe solely

with comment

in other words the European is there is

no st. Thomas Aquinas without even

Russia and he is their greatest medieval

scholar and he literally is the

foundation of the Catholic Church st.

Thomas Aquinas there is no Aquinas does

not exist without even Russian he

doesn't exist and you can look at his

section on Just War and recognize that

it's just a translation of Islamic faith

from even Roche it's a book he talks

about muscle Hamas said that he talked I

mean its massive mathematics there is no

Newton without ever no Colorado there is

no Newton without how it is me there is

no leaving it

there's no calculus without algebra

which is the contribution of the Muslims

there is no higher mathematics without

people like Omar Khayyam is impossible

and this is truth this is fact why then

you see out of this arrogance why then

are they so abusive I think personally

that and this is a Shara and I take full

responsibility for it but I think one of

the meanings will love Tala atom of one

of the signs of the end of time the

prophet Elijah had said and Teddy that

amateur abet AHA that the servant woman

would give birth to her master or her

mistress I really think it has many

meanings and obviously the most

important is that it's a social disagree

Librium everything's turned upside down

but I think one of the meanings is that

the umma because Emma right is from the

same root as OMA that the OMA of Islam

which was intellectually a humble OMA it

was a Noma based on Obadiah on slave

hood to allah subhanho wa taala it gave

birth to europe's civilization but then

Europe turns around and treats it like

some pathetic Emma that they can order

around that they can destroy with

impunity that they can go in and do

whatever they want and then not

give any attribution of what they have

stolen intellectually and I say stolen

simply because knowledge is free for the

world but you steal it when you don't

attribute it to your source to where it

was derived from and that's there's an

intellectual responsibility that goes

with taking the ideas of others and this

is why even in this culture they

footnote everything where did you get

that well why don't you footnote that

our whole civilization put a little one

footnote number one the Islamic

civilization there's your number one

footnote why don't you put that I mean

there was a book written called the

history of knowledge by Charles Van Dorn

and in the introduction he does he says

he one of the people he dedicates it to

his even Hal dune but the truth is he

should dedicate the whole book to the

Islamic civilization who were not only

the caretakers of human knowledge for

over 800 years but also the those who

added to it great thought great ideas

great contributions and then gave it to


right I mean really the Muslim they used

to teach the Christians in Andalusia

they would come and sit at the feet of

Muslims and the Muslims would allow them

into their circle and some of the

Ottoman criticized that in fact all the

ayaat says we shouldn't let the

europeans come and sit in our circle

because they take all of our knowledge

and then they go and take it to their

people and don't tell them where they

got it from and that's already 5th 6th

century so the I mean the intellectual

legacy is awesome and it's overwhelming

and I just at this point want to say a

few things about the disarray of our

tradition now I think probably one of

the greatest reasons for I mean there's

this Muhammad Abduh and Jamal Adina

Avani were of the opinion that tuck lead

is what destroyed the Muslims that they

fell into this blind imitation

that suddenly alas heart was just a

place where you memorize textbooks and

that was it there was no apt car there

was no now there is an element of truth

to that but it's also there's an element

of I think deep misunderstanding also

because first of all Muslim Muslims have

always believed that the highest

knowledge is knowledge of Sharia this is

the highest knowledge in about logic pan

over to Adam now this does not obviate

the necessity of secular knowledge --is

in fact really that is not a distinction

that we accept

I don't accept the distinction Illuma

Deen voluma dunya this really is a

dangerous concept to differentiate no we

differentiate and fought the line what

are the key Thea they're both very bad

to learn how to build a bridge to

facilitate the movement of the Muslims

across a river is a regatta to learn how

to heal the body of a human being Benny

Adam then if he could be covered in

height I don't in every living person

there's a reward if you help it

including the Jew the Christian imagine

that I mean the Muslims never would

refuse to treat a non-muslim and no

totally unacceptable in Sharia in fact

the man shocked Israel who wrote a book

called Jewish history Jewish religion

3,000 years and it's published by Pluto

press with an introduction by gore Vidal

from England highly recommended reading

it's basically a commentary on the

section in Surat al-baqarah about the

cow one of the things he says he

mentioned why he wrote that book is

because he was in teller one of them

he's a professor in Hebrew University he

was in a Orthodox area and this man a

tourist dropped down and started having

a heart attack and he ran to a house and

he said

I need to use phone we need to call an

ambulance there's a man dying out here

he said this Orthodox Jew

looked out and he said I can't do that

he said why not he said it's Sabbath the

man said no no you don't understand he's

dying he said I can't it doesn't matter

he's not a Jew now this is a Jewish man

saying this I'm not saying this I mean

I'm this is not some kind of

anti-semitic story or something I know

so do I'm telling you something about

the religion of bani israel or what it's

become he said no he's he's not a Jew


shikaka saw al who's a humanist you see

woman ahead ki tamanna men who are a

combatant you at the lake there's people

from the Jews and the Christians that

are good people just like everybody else

there's good and bad in everything so

there's people that are honest upright

he's saying the Quran yesh had be daddy

there's no ambiguity there he's a

humanistic Jew who's actually very

disgusted by the Israeli policy towards

the Arabs and that's what he writes

about about racism and and things like

that that exists in the mentality of the

religion itself and the people that it

deals with and although you know Judaism

is the sacred cow of comparative

religions you can criticize all the Jews

should all the religious traditions

really but Judaism is the sacred cow and

I use sacred cow for because Hinduism

right the cow is like our island Madhuri

one Hindu became Muslim and a wild

animal do do rahim allah said have you

eaten cow yet he said no he said your

emails not complete there you go have a

have a steak

we'd have to my if you live in England

don't take that fatwa so he now this

mansion how kisara ill he was so shocked

by this he said I have to find out if

this is you know this is obvious

stupidity the man now she doesn't

understand his religion and he wanted to

write an article about it to show

fanaticism and stupidity ignorant and so

he went to several rabbis to get the

proper position all of them told him

that he acted as a pious Jew and he was

met amazed said what kind of religion is

that a man's dying and you can't save

his life he was really shocked he was

deeply shocked and that's really from

from which the book came it's very

interesting so so the the essence of our

intellectual tradition is is really

depth and discovery and it's all I want

to talk that tonight there's a talk

because I'm going to wind down here but

tonight I wanted to talk about more

actually the tract practical what our

tradition is based on and my point about

sciences and religious things is that

there is a help in all these photo Keith

I like medicine you see a Muslim would

not turn away at you he would go to the

phone and use it to call because it's a

human being out there we don't see it

you know there's an element at which you

see a human being you no longer you know

I was once in a hospital treating a Sikh

person and we know what the Sikhs are

doing to the Muslims but I really did

not he was he had just had a heart

attack and he was really in a in a

crisis state you know he was because it

suddenly was confronted with his own

mortality and he why would I happen to

be taking care of him that was my

assignment that night and ice at night

you know I listen to him I responded to

his because you know there's an element

that has to transcend you know at the

base here we're dealing with human

beings that have their wear robes and

those worlds are not the human beings

themselves they're disguised in them but

they're deep in the essence of that

human being is a rule it's a rule that

was given to him by Allah subhana WA

Ta'ala and that is what we respect that

is why we give people their human

dignity because they are containers and

vesicles of this rule that allah

subhanaw taala has given them and this

is why inside vihari when the prophet

stood up for the Jewish funeral

the man said yahoo do not swallow lies a

towel a said nasa he says a huge man he

said isn't it a soul because now he's no

longer in his Judaic robe but he's dead

now Judaism is here on earth he said

he's going to be accountable for it but

now he's enough just like when you die

were all Muslims at the point of death

in fact one of the words in Arabic to

die is Aslam our whoo-ho-ho

his Lord now has really entered into

Islam that's what means to die in Arabic

is to become a Muslim so they all become

once again right now the problem is

right if you didn't do it consciously in

this life then you have trouble that's

the whole point

you're either come or an al-quran you

come in obedience or in disobedience but

we're all entering into Islam which is

death itself you see death is the final

submission so the you know the the are

are present modern condition I think one

of the great one of the great tragedies

is that the Muslims have have become

alienated from the tradition and our

ulema or many of them so-called

anima I really put quotations there and

not to denigrate knowledge or anything


that but unfortunately many of our ulema

have simply become like tape recorders

that just simply they memorize a lot of

things and they can quote them you know

like you put it all into a computer and

push a button and you get that is not

the atom and this is why knowledge is a

living dynamic thing that by its nature

must be constantly dealing with the

creative tensions that arise out of

confrontation intellectual confrontation

and we are being confronted radically in

our age intellectually we are being

challenged at every level and if we do

not have individuals that are willing to

rise up to the level of this Dean and

literally begin to think deeply about

the profound issues of our age which

include theology I mean the physicists

now are theologians this is not a joke

the physicists are becoming theologians

they're starting to write about God and

the meaning of the universe and where it

came from and why are we in the debate

why aren't we in the discourse where are

our people

where are our Abubakar vile Anees where

our Imam and Noah weeks where are are

and don't you know typical Omaha let

those onnum are gone they're passed away

l'homme Kassovitz when I come back

acceptable you have what you earn so we

can't be content with the stories of

greatness of the past we should be

nourished by it and recognize we come

from a proud and great tradition and I

say proud in the essence of pride not in

Cuba but in Islam that we are people of

his own the Muslim layer the universe'

he doesn't humiliate himself he

recognizes who he is he's Abdullah a

sorrowful as man that's the most noble

of names we're people of LaGuardia and

nobody is based on knowledge there is no

to Budhia without now

the anima used to say Elaine Villa and

Balarama was here the tombola higher

knowledge without action is a means

without an end well hi eternal law this

is why knowledge if it doesn't take you

to Allah subhana WA Ta'ala to modify the

knowledge of Allah is of no benefit and

therein mobile Hamid was he returned

Bella hiya

what a maroon villa in G nya action

without knowledge is a crime it's a

crime committed and this Y Albahari and

I mentioned this a lot because it's

important Baha'i names a chapter of his

book and used to pray 2 rakaats before

he wrote any book and make Allah as do

odd that Allah give him toe fear and in

one tradition that he was given the

names of the above in dreams that he had

of the prophets Allah is Allah he called

this Bab Bab and in Dublin Oliwa Naaman

the chapter of knowledge before speaking

or acting and this is why we were people

of knowledge the Muslim is an animal be

myelin he is an animal what he knows

everybody has a portion of knowledge

well thought I could lead the Edmund a

team that is the Shyam that is the the

that read I don't want to hate that word

slogan but that is the title the epitaph

of the Muslim in their understanding

over every possessor of knowledge is one

who knows more and that is by its nature

a humbling experience no matter how much

you know there is somebody who knows

more than you and you submit to that

fact and recognized for ie solo album

lateral hop up I know some things but

like one of them said goon limited an

inoffensive attend not have it the

Shaitan Muhammad encash Iago tell people

who claim that knowledge is just like

philosophy just philosophizing you've

memorized something but a lot of things

are outside of your sight you see many

things are not in your

is the nature of knowledge it's a

humbling matter and one of the things

I'll just to add to what chef Jemil said

and I really appreciated that idea of

becoming broad and tolerant that this

OMA even Cena is maligned by many

Muslims they say he's like a frog a

froth on my juice this is fun fun

Manorama juice I heard this once in a

talk even Cena was a devout Hanafy

scholar really he was he wasn't is

manually he was a Hanafi now he had he

wrote a book called a Shiva and even

tenia once said about the Shifa him oh

Allah he said Cazale Canada who motto

omar abu hanifa imam al-ghazali had a

sickness and his sickness was the Shifa

which means cure and he meant by that in

Nagas like a riddle the Shifa even Sina

he'd read that book and it influenced

his mind now one thing I'll say about it

will tenia even time he is a great

hungry skull in fact he shifted his arm

of Hannibal he's not sure of Islam of

Islam right I mean no there's nobody

that has that title well like there's

nobody the prophets of lies and that's

his domain he's the one that encompasses

all of Islam when we say shaken Islam

it's of something Chekov is Lanford

hadith shekel does not fit also Imam

even tamiya´s call Jefferson arm of the

Hannah Beulah because he's one of their

greatest if not their greatest scholar

now something to know about even Tamia

and about all of a dilemma in general

knowledge is based on time and

experience you cannot in the beginning

of your attempt to seek knowledge know

everything there is it's impossible in

fact one of the conditions according to

a joining of knowledge he said that

Karen you have to be intelligent

Haroon you have to be covetousness you

have to have like a desire for the

knowledge itself you have to have tell

Tina was stabbed in you have to have a

teacher who teaches you right and then

you have to have family you have

tablet a true understanding and he said

what do lose a man and you have to have

a long life now add a B if you read some

of em I'm even tiniest early fat was

about certain Muslims he made tech fear

of them

he said caviar you know this and that's

something that a lot of anima do in

their early period they get overzealous

hesseman they call it right trying to

really cut off the pretext or something

like that setup that yeah and they might

say something that in their later life

they regret even Tamia is quoted by Imam

at the Hobby Assange Leno Kathy Rowe I

hadn't man I am autonomously me and he

said this is what even time eeeh I saw

him in the end period of his life he

said I don't make takfeer of any of the

Imams of the Muslims there are people

now that read some of the sections of

even Tanya and where he makes some tax

fairness Oh Gavin right he's powerful

first of all let me just give you a

myself a piece of advice don't ever call

a Muslim Katherine we have no authority

we don't have any authority to do that

that what's called takfeer is solely for

the ollie the ollie is the one that

makes takfeer that is the true story the

Bobbie is the one that makes tech field

now obviously if somebody says I don't

believe the prophets Eliza was a prophet

that's castle why because it's my lumina

Dean but the whole things that are known

by necessity about this religion you

know everybody knows if somebody says

Hummer is halal then Hamas there's no

debate I'm talking about subtle

theological points about things that we

are beyond our understanding so we have

to be very careful now some people make

takfeer of some of the Muslims they

should know that some of the things in

some of the books of the Muslims have

Cofer in them even from some of the big

emails the traditional position of the

anima is to say had a coup from Cydia

Mar dune

this is clear cover and it's rejected

whether I talk of the whole catabolic a

fuel and if this is called Joomla

Shibuya is a conditional sentence and if

the Imam who said it believed it when he

died then he died in a state of COFA but

that's the condition why put yourself

into trouble so we

as your knowledge broadens you begin to

see that Islam is a vast Universal

teaching that encompasses a great deal

of people's a great deal of diverse

opinions a great deal understandings and

misunderstandings and the purpose of I

said one time a man said he said what do

you think and the man said insha'Allah

what a out asshole Allah if Allah wants

and you want the other sort a lot the

promised a license didn't say much


he said yeah he lettered and lived in my

law don't make me a partner with Allah

he taught him he didn't say you katha

one head he taught him and this is what

the Muslims are supposed to do but it's

not what I'm your breath Probot like

they used to say we were sent as

invaders not as judges and the Prophet

said about the Kaaba he said the from

did I see keen to judge people is a

knife is being killing yourself without

a knife and this is why the aquabats

hadith by the anythin our walk our

defend gender

so when you hear that hadith the the

judges are three two of them are in hell

and one of them is in paradise take it I

don't know statistics and probabilities

bad odds

all right bad odds really so you know

just we have to be very careful and and

the last thing just to say this about

Imam and Mazzilli who was one of the

greatest of the Imams he was they said

in his book in the Taba art they said

maccann are you probably ladies ugly

come by you know boo elephant fat well

they used to seek him out for medicine

like they sought him out for fatwa and

he the reason he studied medicine

because he went to one of the people of

the book and he was sick and he said to

him I'm sick and I need to be treated

and he and the man said to him he was in

Tunis he said you know you Muslim amazed

me he said that one of the greatest

things in my religion would be to kill

somebody like you because you're the

hood of Islam you're a proof of Islam

and you make us look bad so I could just

poison you and yet you come to me

trusting me he said I don't understand

that and unless it he said he thought

deeply about that and he realized that

we have to be independent in our

knowledge and so he went and mastered

medicine for that reason and that's you

suit the thorah that's seeing the

opening that needs to be filled and

going and seeking it out and one of the

great filter of our age is a need for

scholars not just of Islam but also who

know the a they are living in because a

lot clear clarifies kufur rightly test a

bina civilian we didn't mean the the way

of the would you mean has to be clear

part of the Quran is to clarify Kufa not

just to teach Islam and Eman and axon

but to explain to us what Cofer is do so

we have to deconstruct them we need

anthropologists that are occidentalis

like they have orientalists we need

occidentalis to write our knows and lost

murray is one of the first

anthropologists in history and

ultimately went around the bedouin

tribes and he just used to write

everything he heard and one of the

Bedouin when he saw him doing that he

said Subhan Allah you're just like those

kotoba as

butter on your like the Angels

everything I say you write it down

and one little story about alas my

because I like alas my he was once in a

Bedouin camp and the woman brought in

the tea and this is was permissible

according to imam mattock in the Mata

for a woman as long as there was a tub

and things to serve but she was a

fatahna very beautiful woman and Alice

Mary who you know he was with her or not

rashid and he was you know he was a good

Muslim and everything but he was also he

was a worldly type of person rahim allah

he said she was a incredibly beautiful

woman and the husband was very ugly and

he said to her he said subhanAllah

how does somebody as beautiful as you

end up with somebody as ugly as him and

and she said to him a tuck in laughs

yeah laughs my have taqwa of Allah

Langly aside to it out of be for Hawaii

jay-z when Watson ate out of these the

energies that oh maybe I did something

wrong and he's my reward and maybe he

did something right and I'm his reward

so anyway about an Meza D email

adversity about the Laura know he they

said Minsiter men satiate me from the

depth of his knowledge from the degree

of his understanding

they said he rarely saw a monkey he

rarely saw a mink on because of his vast

knowledge he used to be able to find

some excuse for his brothers when in

other words when he saw something that

most people would say is a Mongkok he

had some opinion of one of the rudiment

that it was acceptable

it's a beautiful statement to have us as

an epitaph for for you know in a book

about you that you looked to the best of

people and you sought for what are

called Maharaj and Manu yelled to me so

literally II when I was a brain Amara

the moment he looks

or for excuses for his brother even

seventy times right I have a friend who

who told me I because I he's always had

me come over I keep saying yes yes and

and then you know I said yeah I feel 10

my surgery and he said Anna chuckle even

anetha mania was fifteen he said I'm at

about sixty eight right now so you've

got a couple more smile on him

you know there's no years in a shara


in fact yomel I hear is the last day

because that's it after that there's no

more days there's a hob in the Quran

which that verse is actually

mushki in terms of the Memphis City but

just to say about happy hour hadith

probably is one of the greatest

intellectual contributions to human

society because it is really the first

deep critical analysis of of knowledge

the Mahad Bethune were extraordinary

people and Inc jihad which he the out of

mentioned about month Akkad Mont up it

is actually a ma arm in hadith you know

so it is a mom in fact a criticism comes

once you get to a level of knowledge but

the reason you criticize is not to find

fault it's actually to purify and to

correct so there's a difference between

somebody who's called more ideal and one

tuck it because nut is means wealth and

you know from a wealth of knowledge you

can make criticism if you don't have

knowledge then you should just you know

really withhold your criticisms because

you'll get yourself into danger so about

the Hadees I would say first of all

there we have many degrees I'm happy but

they're basically three dominant

criterion the first one is called

motivator which is a hadith and there's

debate on on what exactly is a motivator

but the basic idea

some say five some say at least ten is

not in each generation but most say

enough is not that it would be

impossible for there have been


narrators to have fabricated the hiding

and that hadith is obligatory to believe

in it is Elijah now there are some ideas

amongst you they wrote a book called

about the motivator and there's a few

there's about four or five books there's

only about 200 hadith that are mutata

there are not that many and one of them

interestingly enough is the hadith men

cthugha Alea men calibre na hitomi de

fella a table obama i'll go home in a

nod the one who tells a lie about my

hadith let him take his place in the

fire and that is mutata which is amazing

that means all the Sahaba heard that

hadith so the Prophet said it a lot of

times in many different places and it

was transmitted each generation by so

many narrators that it's impossible if

somebody comes along and says I don't

believe that hadith most of the Ummah in

fact I don't know any and the people

also know Adama because there is a

difference with the share of people

about how did they have different books

of hadith that they look to but in the

people of soon and the amara there is a

consensus that somebody who reject the

motivator hadith is not a Muslim that

they're outside of the pale of Islam

because it's impossible for them into a

lie so that hadith actually has it's

called a Delisle okapi it's a property

proof in its rude

in other words in soon you have

different types of proofs you have

what's called Ronnie Ronnie a guru or an

update in the world one year guru is

when it's called a head heady and it's

either sahi or beef and life is not used

for the ICAM and so anyway if it's

motivator then we have to absolutely

believe it now the second level of that

is what's called the sahih hadith and I

will say one of the great tribulations

of our age is all these muddy theme

running around they're all over the

place really unhappy throne are


the earth he taught us all muscle ideas

on them and then they bang you over the

head with the Hadid first of all that's

called in the hadith literature not

gonna be dead if you say a hadith

that you read in a book that's called

knuckle and we Giada and not going to

each other by the seller so somebody who

wants to be set up for you should listen

to this knock a little bit either by the

self is unacceptable you can't even

relate a hadith that you read in a book

it's it is actually considered

impermissible by the earlier Lama to

relate a hadith that you read in the

book and especially if you don't know

the fat in minimal if you don't know the

subject from the object of the sentence

with most even modern Arabs demean you a

sentence like Armas even wah ba-bah

amaura and you say Arab and Joomla a ski

man that I had never long time ago I

can't you know really I mean we have to

have humility the anima didn't make

comments on Quran or hadith until they

mastered the Arabic language that's a

prerequisite of Islamic knowledge now

that doesn't mean we shouldn't read the

Hadees because unfortunately we don't

have very many more hadith in left and

the books are there and some of them

have been translated and I guarantee you

as somebody my knowledge of Arabic is

limited and I'm not saying that out of

some false humility I'm saying that

quite realistically I mean if you

actually get into the Arabic language I

don't know how they learned it I don't I


how did see that we write his book I

don't know how he did that because it's

just this analyst there's always new

things to learn I learned things about

Arabic language and I've been teaching

it for five years and I'm just like

where did that come from

I didn't know what you know it's it's an

unbelievable night which fellow ha is so

complicated sophisticated you know and

and so we have to recognize that so the

sahih hadith is a sound hadith now a

hadith oh sorry yeah that is not moot Oh

Adam Salaam oh yeah tomorrow papa it is

sound and true but there's a probability

although it's very narrow if it's a year

that there might be a mistake in it

because it's not motivator so the even

though the

and the Metin are sound the meaning the

chain of narration and the text itself

doesn't contradict the Quran there's

still a slight possibility of a problem

in it if it's a Bihari Muslim a - after

the Bihari if it's Muslim if it's one of

the sits aha

then the the possibility is really quite

marginal and for that reason the element

accepted as a sound legislative source

in other words we can take a help um a

judgement from that Hadi so we should be

very careful about hearing a hadith like

on the wing of a fly as a disease and on

the other wing is a cure

so the fly comes into your drink then

you should put the whole fly into the

drink and and if you studied medicine

and say yeah actually you have the yeah

it's clear that that can't be a sound

happy that's inside Bihari

and you know that dr. O'Malley said I

could be and don't follow things you

don't know knowledge about because lanta

parnell hawa the problem i am born in

our the prophets Eliason does not speak

from his passion and that's a sound


so I'm Villa I lived in Mauritania which

is fly capital of the world and I used

to dump flies into my tea and yogurt all

the time hamdulillah I never got any

problems with it so and now just the

last and then another thing about

sahadev you'll hear somebody say yeah

that's a belief hadith da Alpha who and


that's a weak hadith Imam and Benny or

now so the deen al albani said it's a

weak happy first of all let me tell you

something there are many Hadees in al

hackin that are sahi on a shuttle hakkim

and their vibe and a sheltered bihari

imam al haqq and considers it so here

but albahari considers a week and then

there's more active of weakness there's

not just we had there - hustle on the

lady there's different levels weakness

some are weak in there is not or

something but they're strengthened by

enough hadith that might be hurried or

something like that so we're dealing my

whole point of this is we're dealing

with a complicated science it's not

something you can learn by buying a copy

of albahari

translated by dr. Martin L Hahn and

suddenly you become a mahadev now

because there's mistakes in all of those

translations I have yet to see a

translation that doesn't have some

mistakes in it what come on read up it

doesn't mean that the translator is more

good or didn't know I can model ela

perfection is on loss so a hadith like

that I will just say commenting on that

hadith is that there is a saw a hadith

that the Prophet said Moncada it a lot

the hello Jenna

most of the owner must say the condition

because remember Arabic is elliptical

not everything's mentioned that hadith

will have been about sane man Allah la

ilaha illaallah shitcan min al de da

halal jana the one who says that in hand

Allah in truth from his heart enters


so there's your commentary banal Tao

saying right like a hadith it says that

you mean what had to come happen your

head buddy a female your booty no see

that's a sorry hadith in Imam Noah's

Arbaeen no one believes that's what it

says let you me know no one believes

until he loves for his brother when he

loves herself as a high mom in Islam

that's not the mom of everybody that's a

hi mom so what does the hadith me let

you know he commanded a man a Hadouken

none of you believes with a perfected

Eman so it doesn't mean that he's not a

moment it means that his Eman is still

growing and he hasn't achieved that

level of Eman which is a high level so

hadees have to be taken into

consideration of their translation

interpretation and understanding and

commentary by the rightly guided Imams

of the hadith now the other thing about

the second happy this hadith

first of all sahaba the Prophet said

things to the Sahaba that related very

specifically to the Sahaba that really

this is not made of what it means is for

the Sahaba it was an obligation right

but for the people who come after it is

the ideal that they should attempt to

achieve now to give an example for the

Sahaba they all had to pray in them in

the Masjid of the prophets Elijah the

five prayers they had to if they didn't

they considered it a sign of neetha of

hypocrisy and one of the Sahaba said

well I'm at the ha'la'tha I'm sorry and

he mysteriously lay in Lamoni doubling

me papa

we never saw anybody that used to not go

to the message of the Prophet and pray

except he was a clear monofin now

somebody here in Edmonton reads that

hadith yeah look at all these mana

Fiocchi I'm the only one in the Masjid

right what's he saying basically now

that shape on trying games with that

brother you see Kevin he's clever he

doesn't you know once he gets you in it

once he sees you're going to the message

it then he'll try other strategies like

what a good Muslim you are a love like a


takbeer now the in in Ahmed Ibrahim

bells med have it is wajib to pray in

the masjid it's a far dying if you hear

the Adhan it's a for buying and he

considers that the prayer was invalid if

you prayed it in your house without an

excuse ultimately charter be like a

sickness or something like that in the

other myth have it is Kara he Ishida

it's an extreme Kara here but you have

to hear the amount now if you look at

old pictures of Medina I guarantee you

you'll be amazed

there wasn't a house that wasn't three

minutes from the Masjid there wasn't

look at pictures I've seen these

pictures there wasn't a house that

wasn't three minutes from the message

but PA I met a man who lived in Medina

for the last 70 years he told me Bhatia

used to be a long distance from Medina

now it's literally right outside the

message of the prophets are lies and you

go out a door and there's Bhatia Masjid

is bigger now than the original city the

main state now is bigger regional city

there's two kind of people have to kind

of and you have to appreciate what I

would say Muslims living in a

neighborhood attempt if you're not going

to the Masjid attempt to put together in

the house if it's too difficult to go

the mess obviously the to go the message

it so we have to be careful about

reading hadith and applying those have

these two people nowaday very dangerous

because we'll literally will all end up

pain I mean my contention if a Sahabi

came in to any mustard in the Muslim


today he would probably say what

religion is this you know and that's

just the nature of you know of how far

we've come but the Prophet said you're

in a time if you hold to 110 if you

leave 110 you're finished to his Sabha

110 he said there's time on my Ummah if

they hold to 110 they'll have knit now

that one tenth doesn't mean far it means

the sooner it means the most how bad

things like that the far below you don't

pray one for every you know two days or

something like that right one

so I just think it's really careful and

then the last comment about those two


there are Hadees that have Muhammad

health or Muhammad up and there's Hadees

that had Muhammad Raja or Muhammad boss

see if the prophets Elijah was given

Hadees in order to keep us balanced if

he gave all Hadees that were Rama

because he is what - Iran when a deer on

Bashir on when a deer on but what did he

prefer Bashir what I - nephew

he preferred Bashara and that's why it

precedes an idea - Iran one nadir on

he's first and primarily a Bashir but he

also has to give in law he has to warn

people because he can't simply just give

Bush shut up because we'll all just yep

take you do like the Prophet said when

he said that hadith in one area should I

tell the people you are so Allah in

other words that he's that if you say

light and I law you go to Jannah he said

no don't tell don't tell people say in

tequila because they'll get lazy they'll

just think that's enough and it's it's a

dangerous idea to live your life on

really it's a dangerous habit to live

your life on because we know fitna to

hover we know fitness Sahara tan cerca

rotten old middleman humbug is a famous

story when he was on his deathbed they

were saying saying I and I he loved that

and he would say that that and some of

them thought he was making Kufa and when

he explained to them he came out of the

Sakura Sakura is like a delirium he said

that shaitaan came to him and told him

that no no really

Islam is not to try to be short on this

and the problem is questions are always

to me they're detailed I know that

people like very short concise answers

but to me the knowledge not simple short

concise it's you know take an agnostic

and an atheist they're halfway to Islam

because Islam you first have to say that

you da ha before you get to it la la

we with every precedes negation precedes

affirmation so they're halfway there I'm

doula it's better than not being

anywhere I mean an atheist at least

they're taking a position right they're

taking a position I I prefer somebody

takes a position that somebody that just

a guru no no and I'll tell you something

that a theist the Imam used to debate

the atheist openly Alba Hani Ferelden

Lana used to debate them in the Masjid

in front of the Muslim they weren't all

like you know saying look at each other

and throw no they sat in debate and

discourse I need a pair two more in the

comb let's hear what you have to say

omaha Niva you know generally the Muslim

there are several arguments for the

existence of God right that are used one

of them is all the cosmological argument

or one ontological you know I mean

they're just words in the end of the day

but the the problem Muslims have

generally relied on the one called

argument by design which is all this

stuff is here where'd it come from and

it all the it spawned this perfection of

a laws existence so I think that usually

is a point of no really asking people to

reflect and think about where did you

where did this come from I mean one of

the things I benefited from Optoma

jiva's and Danny is that and that's a

good book in his book on ahead because

he he argued and many people who were

atheists and agnostics have become

Muslim from his talks one of the things

he said he had a doctor who said he

didn't believe in God and so he just

said to him what is the purpose of the

eye and he said to see he said what's

the purpose of the liver well it does a

lot of things but it functions purifies

the blood detoxify his bottle was a

person to heart send blood to the brain

to oxygenate the cells what is the pre

he went through all these parts of the

body because this doctor understood the

body he said you mean there's nothing in

the body that doesn't have a purpose and

the doctor said we'll really

not I mean everything has some purpose

the appendix they used to think that it

was vestigial organ that it didn't have

any point now they say no it actually

does have a function in the immune

system I think the only vestigial organ

of evolution is the human brain because

that's the only organ that people don't

seem to use which is a case against

evolution because the golden rule of

evolution is if you don't use it you

lose it

well we haven't used our brains for

centuries though I mean why is it still

around you know that's a you know

something to think about so he after he

went through all of that he just said to

him so you admit that everything there's

a Telos or a purpose to everything in

the body he said yes he said but the

synergistic effect of all of these

things the totality has no purpose and

you recognize the particular purposes

and yet there's no universal purpose you

see that's an important thing to think

about I mean we recognize the particular

purposes that there is design you know I

mean physiology one of the things that

you learn studying physiology as they

say form follows function in other words

that the organ is designed to fit a

certain function not the other way

around the function doesn't work from

the form and there's many many examples

of that but I think there's enough

people that believe in Allah out there

to talk to before going to people that

don't believe in Allah because really to

me it's it's a horrific thing I mean

what right do you have to say that Allah

doesn't exist really what right do you

have I mean you would you couldn't even

breathe if it wasn't for Allah's gift of

breath you know if you had one organ of

your body this disability I'm just your

kidneys go and look at somebody who's on

dialysis and what type of life that they

live the quality of life go and look at

somebody who has info

Seema's destroyed their lungs through

smoking you know and the gift of just

breathing of being a lot being conscious

what what right do you have to do not

recognize the the joy and blessings that

Allah has given you in children I mean

my children are just they're just a

source of constant you know just a lot

like about you know really they just

always you they're just so pure and so

alive and so they just fill you with it

I mean you what right this is the gift

of Islam as it is it gives us the

articulations of praise and gratitude to

our loss of the Hannah Wattana

we know to say alhamdulillah wa

shukrulillah and even the beauty of it

we say alhamdulillah could be had

they've been out the solid Iman and said

no that any tribulation that you have

you could be in a worse tribulation and

that's an Emma

so thank Allah anything that's afflicted

you like one man came to me once at the

Masjid and I can get pretty rough I was

not very nice to him but he came to me

said yeah I have this big problem and I

said by your father and he said my car

broke down and it's $800 and well and I

was we had just heard something and I

did I grabbed him I mean this is my bad

side up but I grabbed this kind of shook

my said look the Bosnians have a problem

all right you don't have a problem your

car breaking down

there's does not go under the category

of problem in my book all right your

house being bombed by an Israeli jet

that's a problem and really in the end

it's not because HUD motivates Shaheed

the one whose house falls on them is a

martyr so I'm to be God

I mean really it's it's a horrific thing

that that's happening but the attempt of

Shahada he takes from us martyrs Shahada

so we just be people of praise and

gratitude and Shukr you know that the

kaffir is an ingrate that's my favorite

translation of Kufar. it's just ingreat to be in gratitude to showing gratitude to Allah subhana WA Tallah