Making sense of our Past

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Event Name: Making sense of our Past
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I want to say first off that the topic is daunting to say the least.  I certainly don't claim in any way to have all of the answers, it's something that I've certainly given a lot of thought too.  And I was thinking on the way on the airplane actually, that I really in a sense don't have anything to add to this discourse that's original because this condition that we find ourselves in, which is in a sense is exacerbated in the present times for a number of reasons , is nonetheless a condition that this Ummah has been in for quite some time and some far more scholarly and more intelligent people than myself or others have looked at it and considered it quite deeply written.  Several books and many many talks given many lectures and yet the process goes on and continues and as I was thinking that the ayah in the Quran came to me as I looked out the window actually well they kept it in a decorative animal meaning remind people because the reminder benefits the people of Eman and so in a sense we have nothing to offer any more in terms of the discourse the people speaking in this age other than reminders in the hopes that ourselves and that others will begin to heed the reminders and is the purpose of Vica that we remember.

If you look at the title about understanding the past looking at the present condition and attempting to look at some possible ways of change for the future the first thing that I'd like to point out is that I want to use a medical model it's useful I think.  It's per onic because the Quran

says that Allah subhana WA Ta'ala says

in the Quran but come more editin Arabic

on this Quran has come down as a more

than exhortation and Allah says that it

is that is Rama it's a mercy and it's a

Shifa it's a healing

it's a Shiva in Matthews food or or

what's in the breasts of diseases and

illnesses and so the language of

medicine is the language of the Quran

and the prophets now when you look at a

disease or an illness there are certain

things that you have to examine first

you have to look at the nature of the

illness what is its characteristics and

the illnesses have many many different

aspects one of them is in medical

tradition you look at what are called

signs and symptoms now a sign generally

there's probably people in here that are

studying medicine or maybe doctors or

nurses or people in that medical

profession but a sign is something that

is objective that the one observing can

see it and a good position is the one

who learns to literally see signs that

lesser physicians don't see in other

words they see things that

the average person doesn't see so a sign

is an objective outward manifestation or

it could be an inward now because we use

very sophisticated ways of measuring

blood and cells and and these type

things then there's also what's called a

symptom and a symptom is something that

is articulated by the patient the

patient tells the physician what's wrong

I have a pain here well what kind of

pain it's a sharp pain because I can't

tell that if I'm taking a case history I

can't tell that that it's a sharp pain

that has to be told to me and that's a

symptom the sign is that they're

swelling that it's red

those are sign we can see outwardly so

we have to know the nature it's signs

and it's symptoms and then we have to

know the cause what is the cause of the

problem the illness itself has a cause

and this is called etiology trying to

understand where does this disease come

from now when you look ideologically at

an illness you have different aspects of

it you have a what they call causa

profundus a very deep profound cause you

have caused occasion Alice something an

occasional cause for instance somebody

could have asthma but it's a stress that

suddenly brings it on you see that's not

the cause of the disease that's simply a

an occasional cause it's something that

emerges and actually wakes up a sleeping

illness right and this is something that

stress does so you have superficial

causes and you have deep causes now if

you look in the world the vast majority

of what we read in newspapers what we

read in

magazines are very superficial causes if

there causes at all they generally tend

to be signs and symptoms and this

culture is brilliant at articulating

signs and symptoms and yet they have not

a clue as to the cause the underlying

diseases that are affecting humanity

that are afflicting humanity in any time

in place they have no understanding

whatsoever because they know the outward

of this world yeah I'm gonna lie head-on

Mineta hiya to dunya go home on it after

a few from hockey don't they know that

outward of this world they can elicit

the signs but they do not know the

inward they don't know the cause and the

greatest cause of all things is that

lusty pano it down and they're the

furthest from knowing that I lost behind

without it is ultimately the only cause

that everything else in fact is mean so

we have to look at the cause and it has

superficial aspects but we have to look

also deeply at it and then we have to

understand the prognosis which is what

does this mean generally because the

quran is filled with prognosis how does

it tell us the prognosis by looking at

the ancients by showing us the same

signs and symptoms telling us what the

cause was and then saying if you get the

same disease that they had then you have

the same prognosis that they have and

this is again and again in the Quranic

narrative it comes again and again we

see the same affliction they don't come

with anything new I guarantee you read

the Quran look at the people that are

lost behind without that destroyed they

come with nothing new the same old game

the people playing today are the same

players they change the names but

they're the same players we have our

archetypes and I'm gonna talk and tell

about the archetype of Tarun because

he's a fascinating Quranic archetype

Allah doesn't tell us about these people

to tell us about some story that

happened in

past when a bull daughter of elon who

was reminding more our way out of the

Aloha and more about the people that

were hoarding gold and he quoted the eye

and the knee knee effusion at the jabón

foot pop those who are hoarding gold and

silver moly on appeal and who said no

sir that's the key table yeah about that

i was revealed in the people of the book

he said nazareth be him Deborah tell

Lana it was revealed about them as a way

of taking a lesson was there any minute

ever milady the felicitous one is the

one who take speed from the afflictions

of others so that he doesn't fall into

the same afflictions so we have to look

at according to the now not only a

prognosis there are two types of

prognosis there's a prognosis if you

don't take a cure here's what's

generally will happen this is what the

doctor says but there's another

prognosis and that is if you take the

Cure now the difference between their

medicine and the Quranic medicine that

it can propel without right so Phoebe

this is a book there's no doubt in their

medicine is conjecture 95 out of the

statistical studies that we've taken 95

percent of the people that do this

treatments get better well what if

you're in that five percent you're not

in five percent it's 100 percent for you

that you didn't get better right so

their science is not exact it's based on

conjecture it's based on a type of

with the foreign cast Kahana really and

also on how committed which is making a

judgment based on repetitive events and

occurrences occurrences now to look at

understanding the past where do we go

the first thing in understanding the

past there are two types of paths that

we can examine I'm sure there's other

but these are the ones I'm concentrating

on the two types there are understanding

spiritually what took place in the past

and understanding material what took

place in the past materially if we look

at the matter from a spiritual point of

view or and I would have a slash there

unseen value in trying to understand the

past we have to understand what are the

spiritual and the unseen influences that

are involved in the history of the human

being because these are real the

materialist denies them he says there's

nothing other than the material world

and some of them like you or can't they

say there might be other things but we

can't know them the only thing we can

know is the material world and therefore

were cut off from it and this is console

critique of the ability of human being

of reason itself as a way of

understanding the Supra phenomenal world

the Newman or the world that goes beyond

this stuff here we can't understand it

it's impossible so we cannot know

metaphysics in the end what's beyond

this natural world it's not worth

studying anymore and now we move into

deep material sciences and so the

pursuit of man in the Western world

which is very different from the Muslim

world and inshallah I'll try to get to

that the the pursuit of the Western man

because again in understanding our past

there are two paths now that we really

have to understand we have to understand

the past of the I love you tab and we

have to understand the past of the

people of Eastern and because the other

players in this global scene

I really when we look at them

historically they do not have the same

impact on Islam that the energies have

had that you who'd won Masada and when

the province of ariram said that the

seminal adenine and publican Shiva and

the children there are and Athena and

hetero sarah kovin that's correct rule I

know and Yahoo do in Masada if you who

the one Messiah Yahshua little in the

heaven you will follow those who went

before you the blaze they went hand span

by hand span arm's length my arm Nate to

the point if they go down the lizard's

Hall you'll go down the lizard's hole as

well and in anyway and the mesh cat's

hat said Oh Kahneman women at Omaha and

Anita like an anemic even fatter them

even if there was one of them that went

to his mother

sexually there would be somebody from my

Ummah that imitated them in Hawai he

does not speak from passion when they

asked him will we follow the Jews and

the Christians you know sort of why he

said who are the people men Annette who

are the owner who are the nation's who

are the civilization other than those

people in other words not that there

weren't other civilizations there were

and the promise Eliza was aware of that

there were the Dravidians they knew cush

the the Chinese the Confucian is culture

of the Japanese culture but we are

talking about the impact who is being

imitated today the Jew and the Christian

nobody is imitating the the Japanese

people are walking around dressed like

samurais they're wearing jeans and

t-shirts and cowboy and baseball caps

when the Chinese President came here

that's what

did he put on the cowboy hats and went

to the hoedown right not like whole as a

Chinese name that's a hoedown is what

they do in Texas or something like

that's what he did you see he comes and

you look it's amazing it's interesting

because in the pictures that they showed

in the magazine his wife because China

is still a deeply conservative culture

and when you see Hillary Clinton next to

his wife his wife is what these people

would call a Wallflower there's a

nonentity there's no personality being

expressed and next to her is this woman

glamorously turning 15

so people aren't imitating these people

they're imitating these people here the

Europeans and the Americans and in

particular the Americans which is a very

interesting phenomenon so we have

outwardly when we look at attempting to

understand the past there are two paths

going on that we have to be concerned

with as Muslim as attempting to analyze

and understand the age we're living in

because we do not be ignorant of our

aids see ya mr. Wolfe mentioned in his

heart that in the shuffle of Abraham the

Prophet soul I said I was quoted as

saying in the stuff of Ibraheem one of

the wisdom that if I am an age that I

was given was Alan Marie and your Kuna a

different is Amana he moon she can t be

sandy he McQueen and a dashing indeed

that it is upon incumbent upon an

individual to know the age that he is

living in to take hold of his tongue

because that's the Malak that's the

thing that will allow you to possess all

of good in Islam is to hold your tongue

and then to get on with what is your

business the problem is that I'm said

when I first meet Islam and moderate on

Islay I need from the good Islam of an

individual is that we leave what is not

any concern to him so in understanding

this past we have to know the Muslim

past and the European and American past

also and I can't do that well you have

to do your homework the Muslims have to

look and they have to look in an

intelligent way in a sophisticated way

not in these simplistic ways that we've

been given to looking at things for some

time looking at superficial causes

talking about the superiority of

technology as this is some cause in

which the Muslims are defeated and Allah

if there's anybody in this auditorium

that still believes that they haven't

read the Quran and if they've read it

they have not understood it because the

Muslims have never been defeated because

of aruthor

or added they're never defeated because

of good

or edit and just to it's very

interesting to note many people don't

know this but between the period of 1920

the early 20s to about 1938 there was

active resistance against the French in

Morocco a Bloody Mary V is a whole

although higher on for him oh Allah of

the great wouldja heads of this century

killed three times as many French his

people his army during that period then

were killed in World War one putting up

a resistance now there are causes that

have to be understood we have to

understand what they are in a deep way

so we have to look at history because

history explains many things to us now

if you look at and you can understand it

at an archetypal level you can really do

without history if you have a deep and

profound understanding of the Quran I

guarantee you if you have a deep and

profound understanding of the quran

because Quran is history at its

archetypal level it is history in that

is constantly repeating itself and by

archetype I don't mean it in I'm really

using it idiosyncratically I mean it's

simply that it is explaining to us human

phenomena so we can see the pattern

repeated again and again we can see

moosa and throne and see that struggle

with all of the prophets and the

oppressors we can see that struggle

again and again and that's why it's

repeated so many times in the quran so

at looking now to look at some spiritual

and material forces we can go back to

the first and primary concerns which

takes you to the quranic narrative in

understanding what goes wrong right from

the very

because the Quranic narrative is very

powerful in that Adam Addison and his

wife Hawwa and Sharon are three they are

the three important creative figures

that must be understanding the Quran we

believe that they existed that they are

real and and that the story is not a a

mythology it's not a narrative

mathematician M is created by allah

subhana with the ana from water and play

as we all know which modern science has

added nothing to that statement nothing

whatsoever modern science has added

nothing to that statement because you

can take apart this human creature and

you will find water and earth that is

what we're made out of from it we came

and to return that's reality

so the quranic is not three scientific

it is science at its most accurate

descriptive state and I say that because

it speaks in a language that not some

arcane group of scientists can

understand but it is open for everyone

to understand Adam adenosine M is

created as a halifa and there are

different stories that