United we Stand: One Destiny

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sheikh hamza will be speaking on united

we stand when destiny was sought to a

serum i know her husband very well so

don't he's a friend of mine him was

sorta to a cinema received in o Muhammad

he was happy was Adam Testament Kiera

what I heard our our in the Holly

darling a hundred the the problem with

being at the end of a long day is that

people one are tired because there's

been a lot of speechifying and talking

and so the mind begins to wander people

are thinking about dinner and other

things but this is my fate today is to

be here and I want to say a lot of

what's been said were thoughts that were

in my mind so people articulated a lot

of my own feelings certainly dr. Jackson

and thought of Carol Milan also dr.

Ramadan's points about standing up for

truth and recognizing that the

us-and-them dichotomy is what can be

referred to as a false dichotomy to put

you into these us in them categories and

say oh we have to be either you're with

us or you're against us there are other

options on the table so I was asked to

talk about where are we going which is

one of my favorite questions because

it's a Quranic question for Anna Todd

have wound it's also a Christian

question Quo Vadis where are you going

it's something we all have to think

about obviously that question can be

thought about on a lot of different

levels it can be thought about on a

metaphysical level where then are you

going as a creature that is both

spiritual and material that has a soul

but also has a body if you ask it on a

metaphysical level the Quranic the

Quranic determination the answer to that

she is very professional very conscious

that you you're either going to bliss or

you're going to dis which is actually a

nice daunting word you're going to the

other place one of the things that

Charles Dickens said about France during

the Revolution was it was the best of

times and it was the worst of times and

then he said we were all going to heaven

and we were all going to that other

place I think this time that we're

living in is the best of times it's also

the worst of times and to ask the

question where are we going

depends on the individual when people

say to me you're too liberal and then I

get other people say you're too

conservative I have to question the

question or more than his remark why are

you too liberal or why are you too

conservative I have to ask the person

why do you think I'm too conservative or

why do you think I'm too liberal because

some people tell me I'm too conservative

and other people tell me I'm too liberal

and you're gonna confuse me I'm just

trying to be true to my own

understanding and if you blame me for

that or challenge what's in my heart you

can't challenge what's in my heart

because by the grace of God only God

knows what's in the heart even the devil

doesn't know what's in your heart so

when we ask the question where are we

going we can ask it at a metaphysical

level but I want to look at where are we

going at the level of being in finite

bodies in this world not the afterlife

because none of us can answer that

question if as Muslims I know that

there's certain strains of Christianity

that will say we're definitely going to

heaven and they're all going to hell and

I've actually read in one Christian book

about Islam he said one of the worst

things about Islam is they actually

don't know whether they're going to

heaven or not ask any Muslim are you

absolutely 100% sure you're going to

heaven and they'll say

I'm not and they say but thank God

because we're Christians we know we're

going to heaven that's a different way

of looking at where you're going in

terms of this country and where we are

today in some ways we are so much better

than we have ever been as a nation let

me give you one example African

Americans most of the African Americans

in the United States today have

ancestors that were brought to this

country in Chains and this was not seen

as as something wrong or immoral except

by a very small group of British people

and American mostly Unitarians there

were pamphlets written by Jews by

Christians not only justifying that

black people were the accursed

descendants of ham and therefore this

was their fate but that the Bible

justified the conditions of slavery in

the United States that was not that long

ago people in the 1950s when Eisenhower

was president African Americans could

not drink from the same drinking

fountains as white people in many states

in this country it's hard for people

here to imagine them but there are

people here that are alive today that

don't know the history of this country

that's not old history it's recent

history that most people of color in the

United States of America fifty years ago

had the option of being a janitor a

night watchman a maid

a servant these were the options that is

no longer the case there is a man of

color in the White House that was white

for over 200 years that house was white

for over 200 years so things have

changed to deny that change in this

country those positive changes

is to deny an aspect of America that is

very important so from that perspective

things are much better that's just one

example and I could give many other

examples but from other aspects of the

United States there are very troubling

signs going on in this country right now

let me give you an example in the FBI

they issue certain guidelines for

determining extremists one of the recent

guidelines was if they talk too much

about restoring the US Constitution

that's considered extremism or a sign of

extremism because there are certain

people's in this country that are very

troubled by a lot of the rights in the

Constitution and aspects of the

Constitution that have been trampled

upon they're very troubled the right to

be free of illegal search and seizure

without probable cause the fact that

people can now be patted down I was in

an airport and my six-year-old Todd I

almost went to blows because I've got a

lot of Irish blood and I was in an

airport and this guy wanted to Pat my

six-year-old child down and I told him

you're not laying your hand on that boy

and if you do you'd better get your

Taser out I'm telling you the truth and

he got very offended I said look I

actually wrote a paper on pornography in

this country and I know the statistics

of pedophilia and I'm not accusing you

but I don't know you you are a stranger

and when I was a kid my mother told me

watch out for strangers so I don't want

you touching my child now if you want to

bring a lady out here if she has to

check a six-year-old boy then I'll let

you because statistics show women don't

molest little kids they might aid and

abet a molester but they don't do it

because that humanity is still

tact for me that is a complete gross and

egregious trampling of my right as a

parent to protect my child what kind of

a world are we in when a six-year-old

has to be patted down what kind of

experience is that for a six-year-old

child people don't think about these

things but this is the world they're

growing up in when I was a young boy the

whole family went to the gate in the

airport you remember that Iman Kassam

imam zain imam sera that was the America

we grew up in you went to the gate to

see her family off there was no you

didn't have to stand in front of a

machine that was going to basically

undress you for some stranger to look at

you now let me give you an example of

the problem of wealth in this country I

was with a group of very wealthy Saudi

Arabians and we went to a private

Airport in the United States of America

not that long ago this a few years ago

we got onto a private jet our baggage

had no cheque we didn't have to put them

through any machines or anything we just

got on the plane and I'm thinking here's

Saudi Arabians because they have a lot

of money they can hire private jets and

they don't have to go through any of

this security what does that say about

our country what does that say about our

country we have so many contradictions

in the United States and until we as a

people start dealing with the

contradictions of this country the

disparities between the powerful and the

powerless between the enfranchise and

the disenfranchised between the rich and

the poor until we start really looking

at who we are as a people we are not

dealing with reality we're living in

bubbles and those bubbles will

eventually burst like they've bursted in

places like Syria Gaddafi now he's

watching television and

saying who are these people ripping up

my my picture they loved me my people

love me cuz every time he went out sound

gazonga every time he went out they

would all clap Gaddafi Gaddafi got and

he's just eating it up

they loved me and then he had around him

all these people saying well I have you

to become an uncle of cotton your hip

book shop your hip bucha you see this is

the delusional State Bashar I said is in

this delusional State they don't

understand what happened

krishna mubarak was surrounded by people

wallahi bucha Shabana sorry ow he didn't

in your hip book and this is what he's

and then he shocked he doesn't and then

he gets up my beeble my people opening

his arms thinking that that they're

gonna all go home this is the delusional

state that these people are in we have

people in power today that are in

delusional states when Barack Obama says

that arugula the price of arugula has

gone way up you see this is a man who's

he's living in a different world from

somebody in East Oakland or South

Central LA he hasn't even visited any of

these places he's living in a different

world and he's surrounded by people

living in different worlds this sets up

a situation that leads to revolution if

you read history this this denial of the

suffering of common people when you have

bailouts in this country of hundreds of

billions of dollars for private bankers

and individuals losing their houses

because those private bankers tricked

them now you look at this because this

is completely Haram and Sharia but let

me give you an example they now the FBI

had recognized this long before 2008

because the FBI does good work as well

they do they do good work in certain

things and in other things they you know

they have problems they're a human

institution but in something um Muslims

you know there's all these you know

horrible government and isn't that but

when the house gets robbed nine-one-one

can you send some police over as quick

as possible I've just been robbed

you see people this is human nature

these banksters what they did was they

they would have somebody go and they

would say oh this house is worth

$800,000 and it wasn't it was worth

maybe four hundred thousand dollars and

then they would loan a person the loan

they would loan them the money eight

hundred thousand dollars and then they

would take several of these loans and

they would put them in a package

securitized debt and then they would

sell this debt to the farmers to the

retirement of teachers funds to the

fireman's funds they as triple-a loans

even though they knew that these were

subprime loans and that they were very

very susceptible to collapsing but they

that's why

who cares if if the same rating

institution that downgraded the United


those were the same rating institutions

that were giving triple-a loans to

subprime securitized a the same

institutions you think I trust them

triple a double a single a C B D F

they've all failed us they say too big

to fail but the reality of it is they

were too big to jail because they're too

powerful this is the reality but the

average American is suffering and

they're being told you're the problem

you're the problem

move from far the problem Oh the

boogeyman over here there though it's

all their fault you see this is what's

going on on this planet this is what's

going on people are being hoodwinked

they're being fooled and if you look he

says you know what is relevant for both

Muslims and Americans in terms of where

we're going

Muslims and Americans

assumes already that there's some

difference between Muslims and Americans

know what is relevant for Muslims living

in America as well as the population at

large because I'm an American I'm as

American as apple pie I'm serious

I'm sweet too but I am as American as

apple pie I my ancestor on my mother's

side 1764 my Irish great-great-great

grandfather came here fought in the

Continental Army with Washington as a

lieutenant and this is all I can prove

this I can be a son of the American

Revolution if I wanted I just George

Bush is also a member of that

institution so I haven't applied because

you know it used to be a patriotic

institution but I'm as American as apple


18:38 my grandfather migrated to

Philadelphia up the up the river coming

into New York going up my group my

grandfather on my mother's side from her

paternal side 1896 Ellis Island so the

whole spectrum of experience is there

the only one I didn't come as as I

embraced Islam so I can relate to the

post 1965 immigration because I joined I

didn't know it at the time that I was

joining an oppressed American minority

but now I know that I'm part of an

oppressed American minority so I have

the whole American experience except the

African American experience but I have a

connection with that experience because

my mother was an imam zain knows this

because he knows my mother my mother was

very very involved in the civil rights

movement when I was a little kid I was

marching in marches with my mother in

the civil rights movement my mother is

in the 1964 encyclopedia Britannica's

yearbook there's a picture of her

holding up a a placard at the the when

the Republican

convention was happening in San

Francisco and she was there everybody in

the crowd is african-american except my

mother and my older sister and she's

holding up a placard that says civil

rights is the issue so that's the that's

the stock that I come from I come my

mother was involved she followed the

program civil rights anti-war Vietnam

feminist rights and then the

environmental that she was in

environmentalism in in the late 60s we

were recycling in my house in the late

60s so it's not new to me going green my

mother was Green before people had a

term for that

so that's that's that's the that's the

America that I come from it's an America

of struggle it's an America that

acknowledges that this thing began in

order to form a more perfect union

people don't like that they say it's not

grammatical how can something be more

perfect but the point of that

rhetorically is that this is a work in

progress and and dr. American Jackson

talks about this a lot which is

important and that is the the fact that

America is being negotiated constantly

we are in negotiations

it is a give-and-take let me give you an

example right now you see and my part of

my problem is because I'm you know I was

told my mother taught us as kids that a

mind is like a parachute it only works

when it's open so I was taught to be

open-minded and that's probably one of

the reasons I was able to accept Islam

because I wasn't taught to be

prejudicial towards other face I was

taught that other faiths are good they

have truth in them that's the way my

mother raised us but my mother told us

always be open-minded always listen to

another's argument before you condemn it

or judges that's what I was taught so I

read I read Noam Chomsky and I read Pat

Buchanan and I agr