Home > Event Details Page > islamophobia-the-crisis-of-muslims-in-the-west

Islamophobia-The Crisis Of Muslims In The West

Transcript Details

Event Name: Islamophobia-The Crisis Of Muslims In The West
Transcription Date:Transcription Modified Date: 5/19/2019
Transcript Version: 1


Transcript Text

my teacher chef a fellow in Veda argue

been walking to the iptr Venus at the

White House and Brookings Institute was

he said that in logic were taught to ask

questions in a certain order one of the

things that ill-trained minds do is they

ask questions in the wrong order and

then this results in the wrong answers

so for instance he said you should

always ask what before why so for

instance Newsweek has an article that

says why do they hate us instead of

asking do they hate us because when the

Gallup went out and actually pulled the

Muslims all over the world they found

that they did not hate us and so by

asking why before asking what we come up

with wrong answer so I want to look a

little bit at Islamophobia in the United

States and you see a lot of cartoons and

cartoons ok this homophobia is an

irrational fear of Islamist terrorism

interesting so what would you call the

rational fear of Islamist terrorism

sanity so then this is framing the

already is homophobia is being framed

here so they're telling you what it is

this is not what it's not focus but

cartoonists are actually very very

influential

if you

as many people read the funnies that

don't read any other part of the

newspaper and I've seen that on many

occasions so it's our phobia attorney

according to word net source of many

people's definitions was all phobias

prejudice against Muslims from the idea

prejudging Collins English dictionary

Tucson phobias hatred or fear of Muslims

or of their politics or culture and then

care is some focus in using carrier

Islam hope your person I'm found in fear

up in hostility towards Islam because

phobia according to the psychiatric use

phobia is an irrational fear because not

all fears are irrational like I think

it's it's valid to fear a terrorist

attack as as a possibility for people

that are involved in them but for the

average people you are more likely to

get struck by lightning or diving on a

dog bite in the United States the die

from the terrorist attacks with this

idea of having this fear of terrorists I

mean I always kind of base it at the

airports they say please report any

suspicious behavior everybody's

suspicious at the airport I mean just

start looking around their home

telephoning oh my god you know and they

there because they're going to lose or

they left something think you've got

people with backpacks that could have

bombs in them you know it's a type of

insanity when you create this

environment where people begin to fear

other people because if all of us have a

weapon of mass destruction we drove

you're in it there are millions of

weapons of mass destruction the United

States but people aren't driving their

cars into places some guy did it in

Scotland now those six billion people on

the planet that's not bad right

one guy drove remember that in the

airport crises there

and so there is an irrational fear but

if you want to look at the roots of this

and I think dr. earlier and he said you

know we failed to look at the sources a

lot of these things and I said like the

Crusades and he said even before that

and I would agree because if you I don't

know if they still use it anymore but

when I was in school we had to study a

book called Norton Anthology of

literature and and the first entry in

Norton's book is the Song of Roland

so Western literature begins with a

storm that celebrates the defeat of the

Muslims and this is very interesting and

if you look in if you look at the when

the Pope spoke in Germany he mentioned

men well ii men well ii was an emperor

who went around europe about fifty years

before the fall actually about thirty

years before the fall of constantinople

which is now istanbul and he argued that

the christians needed to help him defend

constantinople from this turkish

onslaught and he failed but if you think

about European identity Europe Europe

has two fundamental identities

historically one of them is a Christian

identity which is a positive identity

but they also have a negative identity

which is that they're not Muslims and

this is very important historically in

the Christian consciousness of Europe is

that they really saw the Muslims for

centuries as a serious threat to to the

European civilization so it's it's it's

important that we remember that the

Crusades are a major turning point in

your leading civilization one because of

a massive influx of Muslim culture into

the West the rise in colleges is a

to read from George magazine also we

forget st. Francis Assisi and the

Franciscans have a wonderful narrative

in their tradition state Francis Assisi

is actually according to Franciscans

ended the Crusades because he got a

papal dispensation to allow Crusaders to

get their explanation by making a

pilgrimage to Assisi in Italy where

where he had a monastery and and that's

part of their tradition there's actually

a book about saint francis the saint of

the sultan which narrates that story

it's a wonderful story now if you look

in the consciousness of America 9/11 now

has emerged like probably for my father

and mother's generation the the turning

point for them was Pearl Harbor and my

mother was actually at the University of

Berkeley when Pearl Harbor was bombed

this was an eternal one my father was

he's younger than my mother but my

father was 17 at the time he literally

got a dispensation from from his mother

he got permission to join at the airport

and so at 17 he did not finish his lives

here at high school but he actually went

into the Air Force as a young man from a

very very wealthy family but that was

the type of fervor that that event

created in the United States where

people literally went just to sign up so

that's important to remember that this

mice my son my 17 year old is as an

artist and he's been drawing pictures of

buildings on fire since he was about 12

so this is in the consciousness of a

generation of Americans now and all of

us you know for people that are I think

over 50 to have when they all know where

they were when Kennedy

assassinated for Americans today they

know so there's a lot of forms of media

that are not being used cartoons and

departments again have this is a cartoon

from the type of the Greeks were

fighting the Turks and Lord Byron

actually went to fight with the Greek so

this was a very popular war for the

romantics to go and fight there's a

wonderful picture of him in in a turban

because the Greeks actually were lived

under Muslim rule for several hundred

years and they actually adopted a lot of

Greek clothing actually come from Turkey

and the Greeks have worried beatings and

also to call them think of the Greeks

problem worry I guess they were wearing

here we have hope anything and for the

Catholics excuse because I violence is

incompatible with the nature of God the

nature of soul are you calling us by the

look on your back that's right I think

wonderful caricature is there if you

look at Jewish that cartoons from the

Germans that very similar it's really

interesting jihad the devil's behind in

Islam I love this one is not a part of

America so that's Barack Obama the

official version but here's the Muslim

how to build a bomb right so this is the

Muslim top they do for Pope's words /

cartoons over the modern world Miami

dyspeptic / car bombing - the headings

dum-dum bodies and then I love this one

the West

I mean disagree with what you say but I

will defend to death your right to her

death right radical

and then here we see my hero zu infidel

kids are finally apologizing Danish

cartoon tank maja I was in therapy

because every day in the United States

people are reading this stuff outraged

by the cartoon husband and then books

written by Ron Wilson so this is is an

incredible industry that's emerging this

is and it's important because you play

all care as American don't be well talk

show radio goes read and then they in

turn you know this

I used to monitor this stuff the first

book that I bought was in 1994 I think

it was called that was just amazing

industry I'm actually in the Muslim up

here with you are you know I'm not a

Muslim mafia done according to Muslim

Brotherhood series and you know what

their evidence is I just want a cool

thing set and they actually caught in an

FBI agent who said mommy doesn't prefer

to live on cooked a sex because it's

harder to do drive-bys and it's harder

for the FBI to monitor them so that

doctor Bassin is on a cook they said

Iman's a typical taste all these moles

of Omar from care bazaar including I

suppose whistles how I have five kids so

that's what I was thinking about like

your car price low but this is

in another book Islamic infiltration I

was a stealth jihadist that infiltrated

the White House so the another one

actually said that I had information

because I said in a speech

two days before September 9th that

America has a Great Tribulation coming

to it so I had insider information and

this was put into a call here I grow so

water and he said well you're a public

defender cockblock

because we don't have good libel laws in

this country but my word means to reject

these dueling because when the freedom

of speech freedom of slaves was a law in

America when they wrote the Bill of

Rights right

they had Julian it wasn't a lot of 1830

so somebody said something nasty about

you you could actually send your ii like

i could send them out to business and

satisfaction jeweled it out but now you

just say whatever you want and since

Sullivan verses of the New York Times

which was a complete liberal

unfortunately it was a complete liberal

disaster because Sullivan was some races

and he was libeled

in the New York Times and he sued them

and because it was during Earl Warren

it was very liberal court system they

actually said because he was a public

figure that they have higher standard so

it's harder to prove like so now we have

two laws in the United States for public

figures and private figures so you can

say whatever you want about a public

figure and they have no recourse to law

to redress that but right so my wife has

protection under the Constitution for

being libel or slander but I don't have

protection and it's just not right but

this is what we're dealing with you know

these people can say with everything one

and they're here doing what is called

swift voting now these are the the

people that are writing moves now

from within Islam 30 degrees Palestinian

given what rock Pakistani leaving Islam

apostate speak out the God who behaves

worthless ohon voices behind the veil

why I'm not a Muslim under this law

origins of the Quran is showing that

it's all made up

why not that jihad and then I am her she

she's the poster child she's attractive

Ethiopia lady

so they love her and then why do so not

be sorry why do we want to kill you yeah

Ethiopians by the way I know a secret

about them they kill because you will

never see something I think they must do

something why do you want to kill you

look at that child and that we have

Muslim performance so you see these are

the ones that want to reform this all

from within changes troubles on today

and this my favorite one learn tolerance

from mr. Collins discussion between

committing adultery Lord show respect

your culture and sensitivity to your

religious values many that's mr.

tolerance for having respect for my

religious values you are indeed an

amazing infidel

so say okay examples may not be high but

commentators read these books and

amplify the effects so you have people

like Michael Savage is this one religion

values so many in America sent an arrest

center themselves when it comes to

evaluating fun is it just beer yeah

absolutely absolutely forget their about

that because they threaten us

that's the cellmate

Meredith decided that the suicide

bombers were Methodists market slices

Massacre types included the problem is

is long and but let me play get back

that water naturally relevant once

between art to mind the middle each in

any any you know that a folder we can't

heal so we have in some of the moment

this quote and the fact that in Mohammed

in law every woman that must belong to

some man as his absolute property either

as a child a wife or a concubine must

delay the final extinction of slavery

until the faith of Islam has ceased to

be a great power among men pretty

outrageous stuff yeah you didn't say

that though I didn't say that Winston

Churchill said that yeah Winston

Churchill as a matter of fact in the

book and the 50s also Mena comparisons

like public in Italy with also Winston

Churchill the comparison between might

come and the Koran one of the reasons

that I'm being prosecuted I don't

remember with intuitive over a Nobel

price for this circle and we would have

been persecuted and I have nothing

against people I have nothing against

Muslims with my point is that Islam is a

totalitarian ideology that should be

compared not so much the power religions

but the power of the determinant

ideologies like communism or fascism

well if we don't stop covering up what

Islam is Islam is a violent no

cigarettes if I start with admissible

as a political system bet on the

overthrow of the governments of the

world at the end and world domination

now see what you have to realize from

this this is going on constantly

I have watched in my lifetime the 700

club I think five times every single

time there was anti-muslim statements so

I have to assume they must do that all

the time and these people reach large

numbers of people you can say Oh only

20% of Americans hate Muslims right well

it's actually compute polls are showing

it's more than 47 percent

but you're dealing with millions of

people in a country that is is rooted in

civil society and if anything should

threaten the stability of that society

because of my personal view is after

9/11 my estimation of the American

people went up considerably

I remember the meanest because I was

convinced that there was going to be a

tax on mosque there was going to be

costing the Muslim women I really

thought it was going to get very bad

that was my initial feeling I was

overwhelmed by the amount of goodwill

that came out of average people we got

for everyone I hate you call we got to

the mosque we got a hundred people

saying we're really troubled by what

we're hearing people

attacks against your religion flowers

were actually set to several of the moms

do you notice a look you're part of

America and and many many people came

out in real solidarity and support with

the American Muslim community despite

the fact that that you know they thought

that Muslims did this horrible thing and

so that to me is a testimony to the one

they make goodness of a lot of people in

this that society but also to the fact

that many of the ideals of this country

that may be at the founding of the

country were not fully realized or even

partially realized that a lot of these

haven't really been imbibed by people

because Jefferson was a philosopher and

Jefferson wanted to see America as a

neutral religious ground a safe place

and he actually says for Christians Jews

muhammadans Hindus and atheists of every

stripe so that was his vision the vision

of the founding fathers was to see a

pluralistic society in IR tunes in the

debates the constitutional debates in

North Carolina that she debated whether

if they didn't have religious tests

there there could be a possibility of a

Muslim president this is 230 years ago

they're debating the idea of a Muslim

president and the debate was worn by

those who did not want religious tests

and one of the things they argued was if

there ever was and Muslim elected to

highest office in this country it would

be one or two reasons it would be

because that people found in the best

and most virtuous candidate or because

the majority of people had become Muslim

in either case that is their prerogative

so this was the argument of the founding

fathers which is quite extraordinary so

I think it's really important for us not

to underestimate that impact one of the

things my father told me in 1940 he saw

a very big impact on a young young boy

and he saw as a cartoon in which but in

the first friend had Hitler saying the

world is flat and everybody the audience

says that's crazy and then in the next

frame he's saying the world is flat and

then somebody is saying to one of them

well what's the evidence that it's

actually round and then in the next

friend he says the world is flat and

then they say you know he's got a point

there and then in the final frame he

says the world is flat and everybody is

saying the world is flat that one of the

things that our marketing masters in

this country know is that repetitive

messages have an impact if you keep said

something over and over again it

eventually takes whole in people which

is why you'll find yourself buying Chris

now just asking quantity Islam is the

first and the American and Western

religions the first as acquitted me that

the American left and the rules like our

caller stand up for his long because it

is an Academy of American everyone

committed and they not better by the

minute

and then this is a whole other field

which is very important 20 million

people got that in the face of evil 21

hours of munich muslim terrorist islam

what the West needs to know Delta Force

all these have Muslim terrorists among

us at the siege Aladdin right because a

lot of Indian there he says you know in

my kids they don't like your face they

cut off your nose it's barbaric I know

but it's home and then he's got a scene

where all that who steals an apple and

the guy's going to cut

handle so it's an associate little

children associating with now this is

another amazing because see now these

terms like Tapia is a rarefied term as

long as well but most Muslims don't even

know but but and this is something in

the Shan tradition it's more emphasized

but it is also permissible in descending

tradition if you are under the threat of

death you can actually deny your Islam

so somebody's going to kill you because

I'm not a Muslim

that's called to me but there are you

know when hums Yousef comes and tells

you as long as a peaceful religion he's

practicing Tapia because he's a stealth

jihadist and he doesn't really believe

any of this you see so it's very

insidious the way that they're using

these terms and then you know bomb is to

do move America these are burden one of

the interesting things about some of

these you have run times with the the

armaments Lobby is funding some of these

it's very interesting raise the arm you

know General Electric mean good things

to death

and then conservative dialysis moving

liberal waste from the American blood

stream from hate to love and this is I

think one of the worst because it's all

from original sources and one thing I'll

say about the reason sources and this is

a problem pre-modern text I can take st.

Thomas Aquinas which I've read enough

Aquinas to know that and sister Marian

dinner PhD I think we can ask a

Christian advice on this also but I

could take Aquinas and make Christianity

look like a completely insane religion

by just quoting him in certain

environments I mean Aquinas argues for

apostate laws capital offense you can do

all this and Aquinas is is an incredible

brilliant emphasis spiritual master I

mean so many things but I didn't take

the pre-modern tradition from the Jewish

tradition the town moon that a

six-year-old child and I asked the chief

rabbi of Israel because the baby who's

the chief rabbi but I asked one of the

chief rabbis of Israel about this

because we were talking about Aisha and

marriage laws in the town would six

years old a American be consummated with

a six-year-old you can take any

pre-modern religion and in modern with

the modern sensitivities you can show

the insane

tradition really I mean this is we do

this with Christianity with Judaism with

Islam any of these religions but how has

the normative practice over time to find

itself this is what is not painful so

it's taking these things and if you

notice this this is more from the right

within progenitor the Jewish tradition

to be fair to the Jewish version I've

seen very little from the Jewish

community about this because if you live

in glass houses don't throw stones what

you can do with the Islamic preponderant

revision you can do with the Jewish

tradition as well and so that that's an

important aspect it's the gates of

Vienna City USA the real story

jihad watch again I mean any son really

well they're very well funded so when

you do searches you'll often come up

with these websites I'm going to pass

through this one people probably saw

this and then unfortunately and this is

the ugly truth because I want to be fair

we have not choices we have 1.3 billion

Muslims you will always have a

percentage of people in any religious

tradition that are insane it's just it's

just statistic because you have the same

people here like for instance people

talk about all the cow blood in Pakistan

is that what they kill you know ten

people yesterday twenty people were

probably murdered in the United States

yesterday violence is a human problem

when it's done in the name of religion

it's particularly odious but people are

violent we've got a problem

religion the major common religion is

that you can get normally good people to

do really evil things

pointed out and I have argued that in

some ways the metaphor that I like to

use is in some ways religion if a

metaphor for religion could be atomic

energy atomic energy is a lousy

including energy but it has toxic waste

and that toxic waste can be very very

harmful as we're finding out from Japan

if religion in store has had ways to

mitigate that and it hasn't always been

successful but we do have a problem and

this form British lady first of all you

know we can say in Islam I mean I

studied theology that's one of the areas

that I spent a lot of time on is

studying with real really great teachers

it is prohibited in Islam to say

anybody's going to help the Quran talks

about what the hell and condemn a

certain people help that's true but I

cannot point to anybody and say you're

annoyed at that it's it's not it's not

our prophet of to do that and so you

know this is just a lot of even

dismantled wonderful for the tabloids

because he actually had a hook as a hand

on eyepatch and used to go on about

jihad for the UK I mean if you ask these

people what is showing that they

couldn't define it I guarantee they

couldn't no none of them are scholars

they're you know they're just these are

slogans great thanks with friends like

that enemies right those who say

for the soldiers burn in hell

massacre those consultants all this

awful dominate the world and then we've

got now I just want to look a little bit

in the past you know does anybody know

where the Ku Klux Klan got their fashion

design from Morocco no does anybody know

seriously do you know probably from the

Inquisition this is the Spanish

Inquisition and that is exactly where

they got them from this is one of the

early terrorist organizations in the

United States and they were Christian in

their understanding and they model

themselves after the inquisitors in

Spain and so there's a lot of

transference of racism against Blacks

and Jews and other communities now on to

the Muslim community because Muslims by

and large in the United States are brown

they're people of color and so there is

a lot of it in fact you know if you join

us wrong you will join an oppressed

minority and learn how it feels to be

african-american or I have an old white

lady in Canada who became Muslim put on

at a job that she said I really felt

first hand that I got to know what it

was like to be in an oppressed minority

because she said I didn't realize that I

had this white my the Mexican wife is

not here

those who cannot remember the past are

condemned to repeat it the demonization

of of Native Americans right there it is

right and we don't show what we did to

them right in this country but this was

and that's what it leads to

Wounded Knee we're unarmed maybe this

was the last really battle in the

American Indian Wars unless include the

aim battles the later ones like Alcatraz

and things like that

I like this home a security this wasn't

the original home and ship fighting

terrorism since 1492 demonization of

african-americans this is something that

our culture was very good at also one

people she had she you know she tried to

commit suicide that poor girl I mean she

people read her history Elizabeth

Beckman I think her handler but even

death all raised mixers with there's a

hidden genocide of this country that

nobody talks about in the south whole

black populations after the Civil War

disappeared in Captains literally

disappeared because they just killed

them all and this has been documented by

historians in this country so we have a

very dark history we forget apartheid

when I was a born that was still

apartheid in this country so it wasn't

that long ago you know and people

struggled to get these rights many of

them Jewish Americans a lot of these

people that were the early civil rights

movement were out of the Jewish

community because they understood they

sided with them and there's wonderful

book called when the Irish became white

which because the Irish Catholics were

I'm going to get to that in a second so

the evil Chinese right same thing fruit

doctor - Manchu exclusion laws there

were exclusion laws in this country

excluding Chinese immigration and we

forget also the problems of the Chinese

that happen even in San Francisco we

have a horrible history of brutal

attacks on the Chinese community right

world dictatorship sounds familiar right

cruelly insidious treacherous Doctor Who

Manchu Malins dr. al Belva in his

ruthless mad scheme to rule the world so

and this is one of the beautiful

Japanese also we forget the demonization

of the Japanese community jab keep on

moving white knight saber this is your

enemies again

and then this is what it ended up it

right so japanese-americans were

interned in California we forget because

a lot of the best farming property in

Santa Cruz

Monterey Southern California were owned

by Japanese so there was a move to get

japanese-americans in turn here

confiscated their letters it didn't

happen in the Midwest Japanese fought

they were actually interpreters enemies

many of them were decorated soldiers

it's still there and by the way this has

never been overturned constitutionally

internment a collective group of people

in the United States it has to actually

happen again to go to Supreme Court but

but there was an official apology in the

70s but it has never been constitutional

and FEMA has actually they have

internment camps this is one of the 25

most

censored stories Sonoma State the School

of Journalism has shown that they're

actually internally camps if that was

ever called illegal immigrants becoming

rebellious so that they actually have

camps to internment we sort of won no

Spanish or max

but this for some people Mexican this is

called a slap you know Texas was stolen

from Mexico when I said to my wife once

you guys are taking over she said no

we're not we're taking back so the

demonization of Jews I mean happens

without how it's like they are upset say

whatever you want

so that look just like Arabs - that's

what's so interesting you know is that

the cartoons of the Jews look very

similar but this is this all has impact

on people there's the Jew body is ghetto

and so this is how the anti-defamation

league and other organizations were

started because of the lynching of a

Jewish man and then obviously the Jewish

financier is controlling the world the

Jews of Tears and subversive 1907 USSR

humanization of high regard this is my

favorite one because my family suffered

from this you know any cover or Catholic

country except Irish like you know Help

Wanted no one ever to need apply not in

that and then look they're

african-american Jewish and the Irish

death so they were all the equal

opportunity to prejudice the they were

seen as drunkards they were actually by

the african-americans shown to be a

blight and then this is what it resulted

in the Kensington riots this happened in

Philadelphia in 1840s they actually

there was a rumor spread that the Irish

were going to get the Catholic Bible to

replace the Protestant Bibles in the

public schools and they saw this as the

Protestants offices kind of atheism and

so they went and they burnt two huge

cathedrals that were built by the Irish

Americans might very great my

great-great-grandfather

Michael Oh Hanson what was in

Philadelphia at this time he migrated

Philadelphia

thirty-eight so he was there these riots

and scores of Irish were killed it

actually changed the consciousness in

this country because people became

ashamed after work but the Irish were

bribed into enfranchisement Daniel

O'Connell the great Irish forager as the

Irish Catholics to stand by the

african-americans in their fight for

liberty in this country and

unfortunately I would be much prouder of

my heritage

have they done the right thing but they

didn't they they went into the political

process and they actually sided with the

oppressor in that case here's

citizenship there's the Irish just like

now the Muslim is the guide to campus

simulate and he's got is 90 because the

Irish are violent anyway the final thing

is just about models of possibility I

think it's important to remember that in

this country that people people have

overcome immense difficulties and you

know I these are the great Chiefs

meeting at the White House with Coolidge

now we have many many great Native

Americans that are recognized by the

dominant community African American

model is also an extraordinary model but

it was done with a lot of hard work and

effort you do not in enfranchisement in

this country easily it's never been

given to any group of people outside of

the anglo-saxons that came to be short

it's never been given to any group of

people without a struggle and that is a

part of the history of this country and

it's possible so I think the Muslims how

the Chinese also por favor

during this the Muslims food is one of

the things look now they're learning

Thai chilies be shooting people

acupuncture we've got governors now from

the Chinese community Japanese also have

the Mexicans also and please the Irish I

mean to tuning precedent the first

language president that was Anton

Jackson people don't know but he was an

Ulster hi she was Protestant and that

wasn't more considered either the FBI

Kennedy's considered the first the

Mexican please excuse the next slide

not the Jewish model is an extraordinary

model my point is now that you can just

look at the vote the Jewish vote and how

much it impacts politics in this country

so the Muslims have possibly but but the

Muslim gain has to fight it in Chinese

there's a debate about this but the

ideogram were crises is also the in the

Video Grabber opportunity in any crises

there's always immense opportunities the

Muslims have an opportunity and people

there are people generally interested

I'm courting if you go to a bookstore

today if you go to the width up section

and you how I embrace the movie office

and found inner peace you go to Satanism

how I came to know Satan and found inner

peace I mean it's just amazing every

religion you go to the Muslim section

why I'm not a Muslim

the trouble with Islam you know anything

is wrong it's just amazing that the

people who hate Islam are defining Islam

and that's why blue Boyce's really are

absolutely essential but I would also

challenge those people good people my

sister Mary Ann Farina she always get

embarrassed but I love that woman

because she to me represents the best of

the Christian tradition she is somebody

that takes very serious and I know she

doesn't view Muslims as enemies but she

takes very serious things like turn the

other cheek and love my enemy these are

these are very difficult things to do

but the real Christians have to step up

to the plate the real Jews have to step

up to the plate people are recognized

that an attack on any religion is an

attack on all religions that is just a

simple fact of the matter because that

the essence of religion is a commitment

to something that transcends the set it

all religious people that are part of

this incredible tapestry of religions

that we have in the world are people

that are saying there is more to life

than just this physical world that were

into we share in met commonalities in

our ethics Islamic ethics as sister Mary

had knows is identical to Christian

ethics in so many areas virtue ethics of

Kazami is the virtue

ethics of Aquinas these are the

commonalities and the bridges that don't

need to be built they need to be pointed

out everybody talks about building

bridges there are so many bridges that

are already there

we just need to recognize them through

the fall and then make that effort to

cross them and meet somewhere in the

middle and just enjoy the incredible

view I was once with a group of Muslims

my Bibles with us was amongst Indian

some other people and we were walking

across a bridge just after 9/11 it was a

very narrow bridge and there was some

two two people coming on to the bridge

and we got to the middle and I just made

a joke this bridge isn't big big enough

for the both of us and he looked and he

said you're Muslims aren't men I said

yes and he said the bridge is big enough

for all of us

we're very disturbed at what they've

done to your community there are people

out there that that need to believe the

Muslims need to reach out but we also

need to hear from those people thank you

very much