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encouraged it because

it was he showed talent he was

interested in and I'd much rather

haven't doing that than doing wasting

his time doing other things because it's

creative it's imaginative Einstein said

if you want to have intelligent children

then then develop their imagination

painting is a great way of developing

imagine if he does amazing pictures

really creative things so there's a lot

there's lots of things you can do but

you have to be actively engaged with

your children a shelfie has a poem about

that your team is not the one whose

parents died it's the one whose mother

is ignorant and the fathers are too busy

to be taken care of and that's the real

orphan right so you have to be engaged

in raising your children but it's a it's

an Amana people should not have children

if they're not going to raise them to be

good kids

because we all have to suffer the

consequences of all these kids that grow

up without real parenting and real

education and they end up you know the

criminal class and all these Wall Street

people that have no morals at all where

did they grow up who was teaching them

you know who was instilling in them a

sense of right and wrong my mother

instilled in me right and wrong she's a

Christian woman with very strong moral

principles from an early age I was told

right from wrong not with religion she

didn't even associate it with religion

you just told the truth and she lived

that she always was truthful in

everything she did that's what that's

what I learned from my mother

be truthful be upright be honest you


expect other people respective of who

they are whether they're a South Asian

Indian some of the Arabs here treat the

Indians like dirt one day you'll find

when when India becomes a major power it

could happen in your lifetime you'll be

down there after all the oils gone and

there's nothing here some of the

Emiratis you might be down there trying

to get a job in an Indian corporation

and some of those guys are going to

remember how their father was treated

when he was working here what comes

around goes around

Sitka diam New Delhi we don't have a nun

s I mean that's not a reason to be good

to Indians but it's a reality so even

from a pragmatic point perspective it

might be a good idea just to treat

people a little better than you're

treating them Filipinos here some of

them are treated like dirt

some of the maids here are treated like

they're subhuman these are human beings

they had mothers and fathers you know

they have emotional I mean I asked a

maid in a house I was staying in in a

neighboring country I won't say which

one I just asked her how she was doing

and she started crying literally started

crying you know there's things going on

God knows what's going on but yomo Kiama

it's a big day at Iowa know that I gotta

know the truth or do manal mean people

don't think they're gonna be a Super

Nintendo and Yutaka sudha people think

they're just gonna be left without any

judgment it's not true

go ahead and what edge gets okay for

cell phones well cell phone like I said

the the research is still out they don't

know most of the studies that the

cellphone companies did were in ideal

situations because for instance if you

have a cell phone here it's coming

through your brain that's different from

when it's coming that way so it just

depends I mean there's ideal conditions

most of the studies that the cellphone

companies did were in ideal conditions

and I have a friend who's a CEO of a

cell phone company so I know I got this

from firsthand right

so we don't know if it's safe at all but

generally before the age of about 15

because the the brain the the Jim Jim

you know the the skull is developing so

before that if you're gonna use it even

for adults they should be used it's

better to use it with an earphone keep

it away from the body that's what they

say hold it away from the body or use it

with the voice on or text a lot of young

people prefer to text anyway texting is

safer than that but radiation is real

it's radiation its low-grade radiation

but it's radiation people keep it in

their pockets we don't know how it's

going to affect fertility rates you know

the highe aphid Dean the the male sperm

count around the globe is half of what

it was 50 years ago so we know that you

know fertility rates are being seriously

affected they think it has to do with

plastics because plastics are estrogen

mimickers and so all this plastic that

everybody's living in everything's

plastic your car's plastic a lot of

people wearing polyester that it's

actually affecting our bodies you know

so there's a lot of very troublesome

things going on but generally I'd be

very careful you should not be spending

a lot of time on a cell phone use it for

emergencies if you have a cell phone

they're useful tools but I would use it

for emergencies I have a cell phone in

my car I don't like to use cell phones

to talk on mmm-hmm no let me tell you

something there's a bomb all right in

America there's there's a bomb it's

called napalm they used it in World War

two do you know what napalm is it burns

the skin

it's a goo it's like gel all right it

burns the skin they used it against the

Germans in World War two when they

bombed aerial bombing of Dresden and

Hamburg in these things in Vietnam they

were using napalm what the what the

Vietcong would do is in the village they

would make a big water basin and so if

the napalm hit them people would get hit

by napalm and they would run and go in

and submerge themselves and it would

stop the effects of the napalm

so their skin wouldn't burn so you know

what they did in the United States they

developed napalm that was waterproof all

right we have people like that they're

sick people they don't think about the

moral implications of what they're doing

so the same is true greed

you know the Arabs say Obama you live

you live it happen huh my greed makes

the intellect go away

you can't think when you're greedy a man

you know you can't think so people are

greedy and you have to be aware these

people could care less about you or

about your health there have been many

times where they know things are harmful

and they hide it from the people the

tobacco industry knew that tobacco was

addictive in the nineteenth early 60s

and they hid it from people we had

class-action suits in the United States

you know what the deal they made with

the tobacco industry in the United

States this is all history you can read

all this stuff the deal the United

States government made with the tobacco

industry in the United States of America

is that we're going to shut down tobacco

in the United States but we'll make sure

that you can export it around the world

you know we're the biggest now markets

for tobacco China India the Arab world

we don't smoke puffs in public it's

illegal in the United States of America

to smoke in public illegal you know why

now that all what out there are because

secondary smoke is more harmful than

primary smoke so you're actually hurting

other people when I go into these Arab

hotels here that are largely owned by

Western companies that in their own

countries they don't let them smoke but

here they're all smoking puffing away

without any concern about anybody else

you know what Thailand when Thailand

tried to outlaw tobacco do you know what

America said it would take away its

favored nation status because this is

just Machiavellian politics they don't

care about people they care about

profits and money they care about their

own people to a certain degree they

don't care about other people they could

care less if you guys all die of cancer

as long as they make a lot of money from

selling Marlboro you know and convince

you that the Marlboro Man is something

to emulate in America you know what our

Marlboro commercials are they show a

cigarette that's wilted and they say

cigarette smoking causes impotence

because they want people to stop smoking


have those ads over here seriously go

ahead when a person he starts playing

games and is soon afterwards he becomes

addicted and when he hears that games

are harmful he tries to give it but it's

impossible it's compulsory that's a good


addictions a problem if you're addicted

to something most of the video

addictions are low-grade a low-grade

addiction is like tea or coffee you can

give it up with a little willpower

cigarette nicotine is actually a it's a

high-grade addiction it's very hard to

give up nicotine some of the same things

because the the brain when you play

video games you get and Orphic releases

so it's it's it's like a drug very

similar to taking heroin or cocaine has

a similar effect the same type of things

are happening in the brain so you want

to do it again and again and again but

willpower is something God gave every

human being and the best thing that you

could do you have to get rid the most

important single most important thing is

to get rid of the stimuli you have to

you have to remove it from the house if

it's in the house you're gonna be

tempted it's like an alcoholic who has a

bottle of liquor in the cabinet

if he gets weak he'll get tempted the

best thing to do is avoid it just don't

don't get it out of the house and you

have and there's times when you'll feel

strong and say I want to quit this thing

those are the times when you should do

it and then you need help to be

consistent find a friend who's willing

to you buddy up with him and you both

make a commitment together we're not

gonna watch video get to it for six

months just do it for six months and see

how your life changes make a commitment

I'm gonna stop for six months when

Ramadan comes around say I'm gonna stop

TV altogether one month no TV at all

zero people now they watch more TV and

Ramadan than they do in other times

you're wasting your time Ramadan is a

precious time I am and might do that

might do that is what's called general

Kuna you know it's short days few days


go ahead you

some people like it their body gets

seized to nicotine so much that if they

try to quit smoking or something they'll

die so are they supposed to at least

once a day

yeah no nicotine won't kill you there's

there's no nothing zero scientific

evidence that giving up nicotine will

kill you but they do have serious

withdrawal symptoms for some people you

know if they're addicted to smoking then

it's true nicotine can actually be like

a you know like a medicine for them

because they get so nervous so angry so

frustrated but they have nicotine

patches there's other things that you

can do they have nicotine gum that

people can chew because smoking harms

the lungs

you know nicotine is is not good but

it's better to chew nicotine gum than to

smoke a cigarette and it has a similar

effect on the on the on the brain that

smoking a cigarette does but people can

quit many people have quit cigarettes

you know I'm fortunate I never smoked

you know a few times I had cigarettes

when I was in high school just kids try

experiment because other kids smoke it

but I wasn't I was I played a lot of

sports when I was in high school so I

never wanted to smoke go ahead you yeah

as you pointed that in Ramadan people

watch TV more than any other normal day

but at that time many school Muslim

scholars started like saying about Islam

so what why shouldn't we I mean if yeah

if the program is worth watching like

that if it's a dollar or something like

that then you know but I would prefer

not you can you can go to the Masjid and

hear a talk or read a book or listen to

a tape cassette there are other ways to

get doodles than television

I want to ask you though do you think

the majority of parents have already you

know got something in their house at

computers yeah we you know everything do

you think that in these types of cases

that parents should exercise restriction

or just eliminate them completely from

the household even if they've been there

and their kids have been used to them


all their friends etc for most people to

eliminate it completely as impractical

that it's just it's difficult because

now there's so many things tied to the

computer a lot of people's jobs are

related to computer and internet access

things like that for most people it's

gonna be impacted I know many people in

the u.s. not just Muslims I know many

non-muslims that just don't have it in

the house because of the destructive

effects that it has a lot of the Waldorf

parents will not have them in the house

things like that but you know one of the

things that is recommended is to have it

in an open space don't have it in a

private space where people can go even

husband's because we've got a problem

with some of the men now that are

getting addicted to things in fact I had

a man asked me about it the other day

you know that he was having a trouble

with that we did a conference on

pornography in Toronto before we did

before I did the paper at Princeton and

I was amazed at how many of the Muslim

women in hijab came out to me afterwards

and told me that they were having

problems with their husbands there are

restrictions here obviously I think

there's some internet control for those

type things but there's DVDs and there's

other ways around that so there are

problems but you know I would say have

it in an open space with the screen

facing a public so like in a room where

you can see the screen itself so that

when the kids go on it you know what

they're going on and then also obviously

you can check searches and things like


so it's good to know what they're

looking at as they get older Trust is

very important you know and to spy on

your kids as they get older is actually

a breach and that can cause a lot of

problems because you're gonna create

deceptive child so it's dangerous to do

that I personally think I trust my kids

I've sat down with them I talked to them

about it I found some films once I mean

they weren't they were more like just

very violent films and I sat down with

my kids and I explained to them I said

I'm out here combating against these

things and I can't have it in my house

when you guys turn 18 you're on your own

you can do whatever you want but in my


this isn't happening and I trust you I'm

not gonna talk about this again but I

trust you and that that's the way I do

with my kids I've never I've never and

then I don't punish them if they do

something wrong and come to me I don't

punish them you know one of my kids came

to me and he just started crying he was

about 14 he start crying and I said

what's wrong he said I went on the

computer without your permission and

looked at some and he would really felt

bad about it and I told him I said look

that is your bummy oh you know it's your

conscience talking to you and always

listen to that because that will always

be truthful you know so I just used as

an opportunity to to encourage him that

when he knows something's wrong to

respond to that and don't don't ever be

ashamed of that that is the best thing

that we have working inside of us is is

that ability to know right from wrong

and to admit our wrongs and then to

commit to not doing it again

so you know that's what I would do and

and you have to have some restrictions

you can't have it open because kids are

gonna go on and now they have all these

allies games that are free on the

internet are designed by Nintendo and

these corporations to get them addicted

to higher games so they're simple games

are not that fun it's all design they

know exactly what they're doing this is

really well researched stuff they have

lots of psychiatrists and psychologists

on their staff that do they do pupil

dilatory studies on kids I mean there's

a PBS documentary that you can watch

merchants of cool which is exactly about

what they're doing these corporations

they're very dark sinister forces they

could care less about human beings

there's a book that was written by back

end back in in which is called the

corporation they made it into a

documentary and he's us psychiatrists

showing from the diagnostic Statistical

which is used for psychiatric disorders

in the United States that all of the

symptoms of sociopathic behavior are in

corporate behavior

corporations are sociopathic they have

no morality there's nothing working you

might have moral people in corporations

but the corporation

as a machine which is functioning as a

person because it has the rights of

persons in Western law is a sociopath

and the sociopaths are running the show

and the victims are these these poor

young people as far as I'm concerned

adults have no excuses I got okay let me

let me get somewhere back there you all

the way back there yeah you looking back

it's you huh

the government government governor or

president or whatever knew that stuff

are harmful anything that's harmful for

the country why doesn't he just stop it

well that's a good it's an excellent

question the in in in in the United

States certain things are illegal that

don't make any sense at all in relation

to other things that are legal for

instance in the United States marijuana

is illegal but whiskey is legal or

alcohol alcohol hard alcohol any any

form pharmacists will tell you that most

alcohols are more harmful than cannabis

but the reason that marijuana is illegal

in the United States is because the

cotton industry lobbied heavily to get

marijuana made illegal because they used

to use marijuana for all the things they

use cotton for so there's a history for

the prohibition of marijuana as opposed

to right so you you have market forces

and then in the United States in Western

countries generally censorship is a very

sensitive issue even though some things

are censored I'm right now there's us

going to the Supreme Court about

pedophilia material that's done animated

should they make it illegal or not it's

a major problem right so actually

because pedophilia films involving

sexual acts with children is illegal but

there's they're arguing there is and

these are merchants that want to sell

this material they're arguing that this

is animation it's

not but they can make it look as real as

regular film these are major problems in

the United States and there's people

that want to censor these things that

make them illegal and then there's other

people that are arguing for no

censorship but in Islam we do we here in

a country like this you know we do have

certain things that we don't want to see

become public

you know accepted publicly because there

are standards our moral standards that

we still adhere to that a lot of places

other places have abandoned whether or

not people practice is another thing

that's a problem everywhere yeah okay

one more question if cigarettes are

harmful why did they invented it it's a

good cook no it's a good question

seriously it's a really good question

it's an intelligent question you know

what in the Quran it says in whom can

Anam been whom about people that do

harmful things for themselves are like

animals and then it says then whom allah

in arabic ben is a harvested rock it's

where you correct something even though

it's not a mistake it's used

rhetorically so it's not like God made a

mistake but it's to emphasize no they're

more astray than animals why the Mufasa

don't say because animals will never

purposely harm themselves

if an animal sees something harmful it

will flee from it but human beings are

are sometimes they do stupid things

I was once with one of my little boys

and in a store and and there was

somebody smoking and they took in a puff

and blew it out and it was the first

time my son had seen smoke and he just

looked up and he was shocked he thought

the person was on fire and this person

looked down and said don't you ever do

this you know so but people are also

mocked Ella you know the the person

doing it you should have compassion for

them I'm telling you something it's very

important people that smoke you should

have compassion for them you shouldn't

see them as evil people or bad people

they have an empty lab that you don't

have whenever the Prophet SAW people in

tribulation tribulation means if they're

in something that not good for them he

would say alhamdulillah di Fanny

mimicked Erica be he he wouldn't say it

out loud he would say it where they

couldn't hear praise be to the one who

has delivered me from what he has tried

you with the tribulation this hardship

Wafaa Bellini attica theorem in Manhart

of data and has preferred me over so

much of his creation so but people that

sell cigarettes people that sell alcohol

people that sell weapons armaments to

other people so that they kill each

other those people know they should be

opposed boycotted but people that are in

the tribulation alcoholics all those

people we have to have compassion for

them you know really and just thank a

lot that we don't have that tribulation

so you have to feel competin the

prophets eyes and felt compassion for

people even there was an alcoholic at

the time of the prophet his name's

abdullah can he look about him out it's

inside Buhari and he used to drink and

get drunk and they would bring him and

like punish him with us

sandal they used to use sandal and they

just like punish him for drinking and

one time a man said this is inside will

Hadi good sound hadith the the man said

allahu anhu oh god curse this man you

know ma Akhtar oh ho with Jana or Mac

thought oh my you oughta be he you know

he's always being punished for drinking

and the Prophet said don't say that

that's hell and hope for my and him two

men who in Lahore a pseudo don't curse

him because he's a man who loves God and

His Messenger so even though he was an

alcoholic he still loved God and His

Messenger and and the prophet saw him

even Hodja says that's the most hopeful

hadith for the people doing major wrong

actions because even if you're doing a

major wrong action it doesn't negate

love all together it just negates

complete love because complete love you

obey the one you love

right I wish I can answer all your

questions but that was the last question

Allah bless all of you and Charlotte god

bless all of you give you good guidance

and shall I give you open your


like to thank shake comes up for coming

and spending into the last few days with

us it was a request from the Board of

Governors that he ultimately honored to

give up his time I know he's been very

busy he's just coming from a tour of a

few different countries he's off this

evening or I believe tomorrow again so

the time that he has spent with us I

hope that we've learned something from

him little humility I believe that's

also what Islam preaches is to humble

ourselves and hear especially our

students we hope that you have picked

something up from which a comes I had to

say and I think the most important thing

is that we have the book we have the

Holy Quran we need to read that book we

need to make sure that we understand

what's in there we need to make sure

that we also live out what's in that

book and one of the biggest thing is I

would say is humility it's nice to see

that we have workers in our homes and I

think Sheikh Hamza was mentioning when

he went and he stayed with somebody in a

neighboring country about one of the

mates but if we can think about the

people that work in our homes and the

drivers that collect us and when the

kids are outside and the boys and the

girls are the primary yes in the school

we don't allow the mates to come in when

I first started here seven years ago we

stopped that but yet we still have the

maids that will run up to the door to

make sure that they collect your bag

from you as you drop it down in front of

them remember they're people remember

all right so if we could just work for a

better environment not only here at West

Green but throughout and be better

citizens of the world again I'd like to

thank Shea comes up for the time that he

spent with us here at West Green it's

been a long two days I believe with his

assistance and colleagues and we had a

speaker yesterday for the boys in Mom's

ed so again we appreciate the time that

you've taken out for West Green school

thank you very much